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Thread: 98% Experimentaion Med. Harv. only BER 9?

Khristen
Mon May 03, 2004 9:44 pm
#1

I've been gathering up components and resources to finally make a factory run of harvesters since getting a BER 10 is so inconsistent. When I went to make my schematic tonight on a medium chemical harvester, it's impossible for me to get a BER 10. Four tries in a row. First one was 98% effectiveness. The others were 94%, 95%, and a 93% (tried various chemical components). Is this just me or was there some kind of stealth nerf? Any help would be extremely appreciated.




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Coldghost
Mon May 03, 2004 9:49 pm
#2

its your light ore mining units, even if they are BER 4, the % still has to be high, i can have 2 different sets of BER 6 or emining units, one with high % one iwth a lower % and even if i max on the experiments on the harvs one will be 12 one will be 13....


its most likely your chemical isnt good enough since any duralloy steel is good enough



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Coldghost
Mon May 03, 2004 9:51 pm
#3

wait i lied, omus use gas and the stats on gas dont effect anything i dont believe, so it might be the steel u your using your omu's with, make the they are high percent lomu's



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Khristen
Mon May 03, 2004 10:00 pm
#4




Thefluidic drillingpumpsI made are at 4 and the final percent was pretty much maxed out as well.


I tried using several types of chemical, starting with the lubricating oil as suggested in a previous thread. The ones that had UT/SR ranged from 700-800 average of the two stats.


The metal I am using is a steel with an average of the three stats (doubling the UT) at 971. The metal used was iron at an average (also doubling the UT) at 990. The ore (using the same average) is at 972. I have gotten BER 10s from using the same combination of materials before as well. These are the same ingredients used to make the fluidic drilling pumps.


I also have clothing on that gives me a +5 to experimentation and a +8 to assembly coupled with port that gives me an additional +8 to experimentation. So what the problem is I really have no clue.


Message Edited by Khristen on 05-03-2004 10:07 PM

Message Edited by Khristen on 05-03-2004 10:39 PM



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ZenDragonMLS
Mon May 03, 2004 10:20 pm
#5

Ignore the "rating" on the Light Ore Mining Units. What quality did they come out at? If they were *really* in the 90s, then I don't know what to tell you.



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Khristen
Mon May 03, 2004 10:35 pm
#6


It's not mining units. It's fluidic drilling pumps. Using those same resources as listed above.




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Pawlin
Mon May 03, 2004 11:33 pm
#7

You do need to have a high % on the fluidic drilling pump. Same goes for any mining component for any harvester.


Double check your fluidic drilling pump and try crafting one from scratch with at least 90%.


If you get 90%+on the fluidic drilling pump and 90%+ on the final assembly then you should get BER10.




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VelRahn
Tue May 04, 2004 5:53 am
#8






Khristen wrote:




Thefluidic drillingpumpsI made are at 4 and the final percent was pretty much maxed out as well.


I tried using several types of chemical, starting with the lubricating oil as suggested in a previous thread. The ones that had UT/SR ranged from 700-800 average of the two stats.


Message Edited by Khristen on 05-03-2004 10:39 PM




"Pretty much maxed out as well" is not very helpful. What was the exact #. If you use bad resources you can "max out" at 60%. If you're only using material in the 700-800 range for your FDP then there's no way you're going to get a FDP that has a final % of 90+. All the material you use in your FDP needs to have average stats in HR/SR/UT of 900+. This is the only way to get a 90%+ FDP and consequently a BER 10 harvester. UT/SR by itself does not effect the FDP. You have to have HR as well.






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WellDone
Tue May 04, 2004 7:43 am
#9

If my research is correct and you are actually playing on Naritus server then it's all resource quality.


According to swgcraft there has not been a good recent shift of STEEL. You will need to keep an eye out for a STEEL that is HR,SR,UT all above 950. And yes, always use lub oil. It has no stats for HR,SR or UT so it does not bring down the quality of the metal.







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QuarterMaster01
Tue May 04, 2004 8:26 am
#10

I am having the same problem I am using the same materials i have used previously to make ber 10/13. If i have 2 experimentation points left and I am currently at an 89%, even if I get an amazing success it will still max me out at 90%. The materials I am using were able to produce mining units and finished harvesters previously with ber 10/13 now they only produce ber 9/12. I have changed nothing on my char as far as clothing, tools, stations. resources, even the old mining units don't provide an advantage. I want to believe that this is an oversight of the crafting/experimentation revamp recall, but can't confirm it.



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Cafa
Tue May 04, 2004 9:25 am
#11

LOMU needs to be at 92% or 93% I believe.


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Pawlin
Tue May 04, 2004 9:26 am
#12

Please let us know all the stats on all the materials you are using and what the experimentation % result is at each step of your experimentations. If you are using previously made components then make them again from scratch.


Don't expect that just because you took some materials and made a BER10 mineral that you can take the exact same materials and expect to get a BER10 chemical. They use different amounts of different resources so it changes the equation. Your materials might be borderline such that you can squeak out a decent mineral but not get a good chemical.


Experimentation is not broken. If it were then everyone in this forum would be saying "me too" instead of giving suggestions.


We should make this an FAQ I think, it seems to come up ever week or two.





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Cafa
Tue May 04, 2004 9:33 am
#13

Oh forgot. NEVER EVER USE POLYMER.


Use Lube oil! No stats to bring the chemical down in the averages.


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