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Thread: Packing up and moving.....

Drashk
Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:09 am
#1


My house. At least ingame. I'm not really sure where else to post this right now, but I figured that it would most effect the Architect community, since so many of us also tend to be interior decorators. This little tid bit hasn't been listed in the Publish 21 note, which is currently on Test Center.


Housing structures now have a really really really cool feature added. You can Pack up your house without cleaning it out first, and place it again, with everything still in the same spot that you left it. And I do mean everything. (well not completely sure about everything everything, but haven't seen anything get left out yet.) Maintenance, Admin list, structure name, furniture, etc will all be left as is, when you use this option. You can not pack up a house that has a vendor in it though.


Here is how it works...


On the structure radial menu there is now an option called 'Pack Up This Building'. It is the first listed option on the Structure Management menu. This option only shows up for those that own the structure. Here is a screen shot of the radial menu option. When you chose the menu option, a pop up dialogue box appears with the following message.

You are about to pack your house and all of its contents into a structure control device that will be stored in your datapad. Packing up your home does not refund the lots used by the house. In addition, you will continue to be charged maintenance costs on the house. You may unpack your house at any valid location, any time you wish.


Are you sure you want to pack your house at this time?


No

Yes

Here is a screen shot of the features dialogue box


Once selected, your house is boxed up and placed inside your datapad, for safe keeping. Here is a screen shot of the house control device. At this time, the Status menu option does not appear to function. You can add maintenance to the house control device, from the menu option. It would appear that the maintenance is added to the structure, without issue.


There is one issue that currently exisits with this feature that can cause some problems. When your house is packed up, the lots are still registered to the house. When you go to place the house, they system still recognizes the house placement as if it was directly from a deed, so it looks to see if you have lots available. The system won't use any additional lots to replace the house, but it will not let you replace the house if you do not have enough lots to place the structure normally. As long as you have the free lots needed to place the structure, as if you were placing it from a deed, there isn't an issue. I'm pretty certain that this is a bug, since it has the potential to cause a lot of issues if you were to Pack up all of your structures at the same time, otherwise this has the potential to become a CSR nightmare.


Once the house is turned into a House control device, it can not be traded or deleted. Normal placement rules still seem to apply to the structure.


This feature has to be one of the best to come out for aspiring house designers and those that simply want to move, but don't want to redesign their house each time that they do so.


A very nice potential use of this feature would be for completely decorated house sales. You could have a few model houses set up with furniture fora customer to look at. The customer could pickthehome that they wanted. You would then be able to /transfer the structure to the new home owner. They would then be able to pack up the home and move it to the location of their choice.


The aspiring home designer could also simply pack up a house and bring it to a customers door, to show off a fully funished floor model. The potential for this kind of business is endless.


There is also the extremely great usefulness of interstelar generic house moving. You can plop down a Generic house and fill it up with stuff. Move to your new location and empty the house into another structure. This is of huge benefit to anyone that has ever moved their entier shop/business/house to another location. It allows you to move 380 items from one place to another, using your personal inventory, a back pack, 5 storage droids, and a Small/Medium house.



I just wanted to give you the heads up on a potentially nice feature that is being added, that will make being a home owner / interior designer much more fun.





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Vaylon_SWG
Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:33 am
#2

hmm
Vaylon_SWG
Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:38 am
#3

surprised they were able to pull it off quite frankly

pretty neat

yet they can't fix my chat tabs?

Message Edited by Vaylon_SWG on 07-25-2005 03:43 AM

Pawlin
Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:44 am
#4

THis is a cool feature that will certainly make moving a whole lot easier.







Drashk wrote:


....

There is one issue that currently exisits with this feature that can cause some problems. When your house is packed up, the lots are still registered to the house. When you go to place the house, they system still recognizes the house placement as if it was directly from a deed, so it looks to see if you have lots available. The system won't use any additional lots to replace the house, but it will not let you replace the house if you do not have enough lots to place the structure normally. As long as you have the free lots needed to place the structure, as if you were placing it from a deed, there isn't an issue. I'm pretty certain that this is a bug, since it has the potential to cause a lot of issues if you were to Pack up all of your structures at the same time, otherwise this has the potential to become a CSR nightmare.


...




If I understnad this right:


I've got 9 lots used right now including my medium house. If I pack up my 2 lot medium house then it will still show 9 lots used including the packed house. But if I try to unpack it the system will look at my lot usage and see I don't have 2 lots free and not let me unpack the house.


Yeah I'm sure thats a bug.






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Cigaran
Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:49 am
#5






Vaylon_SWG wrote:
surprised they were able to pull it off quite frankly

pretty neat

yet they can't fix my chat tabs?

Message Edited by Vaylon_SWG on 07-25-2005 03:43 AM





Oddly enough, this seems to have corrected it's self for me. No real idea why or how but it has stoped happening on all but one of my accounts.



As for the house Pack Up option, this is great to finally see! Now we are one step closer to being able to clean up and redo our player cities. This will be a boon for decorators, that is no doubt. I can't wait to see people spamming the startports:


"Selling a large Generic House! Fully decorated with 200 items, 10 of which are storage containers. Please e-mail Sally Spammer for decoration options and prices!"





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Poldano
Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:41 am
#6






Cigaran wrote:





Vaylon_SWG wrote:
surprised they were able to pull it off quite frankly

pretty neat

yet they can't fix my chat tabs?

Message Edited by Vaylon_SWG on 07-25-2005 03:43 AM





Oddly enough, this seems to have corrected it's self for me. No real idea why or how but it has stoped happening on all but one of my accounts.



As for the house Pack Up option, this is great to finally see! Now we are one step closer to being able to clean up and redo our player cities. This will be a boon for decorators, that is no doubt. I can't wait to see people spamming the startports:


"Selling a large Generic House! Fully decorated with 200 items, 10 of which are storage containers. Please e-mail Sally Spammer for decoration options and prices!"







Check the details in the original message. As the feature stands now, the packed-up house cannot be traded or deleted. No trade pretty much means no spammers, as far as I can determine.


Saego, Wanderhome.


walcyradiant
Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:14 pm
#7

So you can have a storage house w/ 200 items in it, pack it up and it's not taking up any lot space or inventory space other than the item device? And you can have multiple houses packed? Gee, wonder if I'll start marketting houses as GREAT cheap and easy storage mediums. =)


Anyone mind confirming this is possible, intended, bugged? It could be abused or it could be a great great thing for those strapped on inventory space. =)



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Pawlin
Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:41 pm
#8






walcyradiant wrote:

So you can have a storage house w/ 200 items in it, pack it up and it's not taking up any lot space or inventory space other than the item device? And you can have multiple houses packed? Gee, wonder if I'll start marketting houses as GREAT cheap and easy storage mediums. =)


Anyone mind confirming this is possible, intended, bugged? It could be abused or it could be a great great thing for those strapped on inventory space. =)






According to the OP, the house still uses lots when its in the packed state.





Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

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Akkori
Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:37 pm
#9

I love this feature, and I hope it is the pre-cursor to getting rid of all the abandoned and condemned structures. The house should auto-pack once it has been condemned for 1 week. I recall something a while ago about something they wanted to get in, where if a hose was destroyed through lack of maint, or cancelled account, all the items in the house would go in the persons Bank, and all the items on any vendor in the house would go into the Vendor-Owners bank. Maybe this is the first step. Maybe they wanna make sure this works well before putting in the vendor stuff, and then FINALLY doing the character purge.



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Cafa
Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:45 pm
#10

Fix the lot problems and this will be a God send. Man, the ability to move 400 units of anything, plus inventory, at once. /swoon


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MrMon
Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:07 pm
#11


Sounds cool but it's frightening too.


Imagine (and it's not a far posibility) you loose your house with all the items in it....


You sent a ticket to a CSR...


You recieve a response: "Check your videocard drivers, it might help with your issue"


You never see your house again





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Pawlin
Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:13 pm
#12






MrMon wrote:


Sounds cool but it's frightening too.


Imagine (and it's not a far posibility) you loose your house with all the items in it....


You sent a ticket to a CSR...


You recieve a response: "Check your videocard drivers, it might help with your issue"


You never see your house again






Well that could happen in the current system...





Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
Cigaran
Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:16 pm
#13






Ekir_Atari wrote:





Check the details in the original message. As the feature stands now, the packed-up house cannot be traded or deleted. No trade pretty much means no spammers, as far as I can determine.


Saego, Wanderhome.







You can't trade the deed, but you can deploy it and /transferstructure... Sales will still occur - and they should! This will be great for players who aren't as interested in combat or Jedi (which is, what? 5% hehe). There is the potential for scamming though as no secure transaction can take place for this - somewhat similar to slicing, I would imagine. Just make sure you trust who you're selling to/buying from.


Ekir








Exactly. I was not meaning they'd just sell you the packed up house. This would also be an interesting way to handle "gifts" for new citizens in player cities. You could set up and decorate the house as you wanted. Then, just create any of the container items and name it "Welcome to City X!" and have any number of freebies in there for them.




This hasa huge potential.





Cigaran Lanarik
Mayor of Alacio Island, Naboo C
Smuggler,Smuggler's Alliance Pilot
Drop off Vendor @ -1419 -187 Naboo
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