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If you are selling your house's for 10K you are RUINING the market place, think about it. A good pistol cost me 3K and I can get a house for just over 3 X that? What this is going to do is make our profession useless soon, and we will have no source of income.. Please think before you sell... 20 - 25K for a small home is a great price. If you are selling them for 10K you are not making ANY credits unless you are exploiting, that is less than 3 credits PER REASOURCE. If you want I will make you a deal infact, if you want to make3 credits per resource PLEASE send me a /tell in game on the Lowca server and I will be happy to buy every last drop or ORE you have at that rate.. Please think before you sell.. A house is worth way more than 10,000 credits..

I know who your talking about, I tried to get him to stop, he refused because he "is only in this for the exp, 10k makes it easy to get rid of the houses"

Actually all you have to do is offer more with the house and you can get more for the house.

Trust me when I say that you offer tips and advice as well as complete furnishings as well as tell them how to manipulate the furniture you can ask for alot more than 10k.

If I were just starting out and knew nothing but combat I would gladly pay 20-25k for someone to show me the ropes of home ownership.

And I can say from experiance that alot of people will too.

Offer them complete furnishings and chat with your customers a bit about what it means to own a home and you will do very well.

But for those of uswho know it all and don't want anything but a house and some basic furniture the 10k house is right up our alley.

Roogah

I put my first house deed on my personal vendor for 27500(if this is too high the market will tell me so)I think this is fair since I had to run around like mad and get the resources and spend time and many failures to make it. I also am selling the deed from my own house(5332,5971 Kaadara,Naboo,Radiant)so the people can get a look at what a Naboo style house looks like and there is lots of land nearby to place it if they see fit. that way we can start strongholds. what is going to happen is if every one sells thehouses for 10k the land scape will fill up very quickly. Then we will all be out of a job because people will get thier house.10k comes fromonly have to run a few missions to get the cash. The problem is not the ease of making money it is the deflation of pricing. What's next factories for 12500? Remember it is us who will determine the maket for houseing and factories and all that. The guy selling for 10k probably has 6 accounts all macro sampling so he can grind out houses. Hopefully the 2 day noob that buys it can't afford to maintain it.

Silencia

Man Was I PO'd yesterday on Lowca when I saw someone spamming for 10k houses in Coronet.

Houses take 3388 Resources. So 10k is 2.95 per resource. Look on the bazzar. People are selling thier cooper for 7 a piece and Steel for 5. I had made 5 houses, and except for mine and my friends I sold the other 3 for 20-25 which is 5.90-7.37 per resource used. That is a reasonable price !! Now I got 3 tells from my previous client s saying I ripped them off and that houses go for 10k.

Anyways I give the guy a /tell in game and say, "Hey selling the house for 10k is 3 a resource, You can sell the resources for more than that. Ore is rare on Lowca. Sell for 20-25 and you'll make a profit and be able to pay for your harvestors". I get a reply back that he has 70 harvesotrs and he doesn't care about the money. His PA pooled all thier lots in and they have one guy just to collect thr resources ad nausium ad infinitum...

So I have reaced factories and had an open order for a factory for 60k. Thats 60000/13350 resources=4.49 per resource used.. and I failed a wall ! Ugh.. Long story short.. I make the factory and send a tell to the person saying I made it. They say oh I already bought one for 30k. 30k !!!! That's 2.24 a resource.

Ok so it's a free market.. Here's the problem. In order to get the resources neeed to lvl in factories and med/large homes you have to keep you harvestors up as an individual. If you don't the amount the produce will make it so that you are not getting enough ore and steel after day1 to make a factory. Then you have super PA that has people running missions all day long to pay for thier maintainence costs. You can't compete against that. It's impossible.

A precedent has been set now. Players are going to expect to pay 10k for thier houses. You will not make money on those houses now. As for selling a house with furniture for 20k.. Well furniture takes resources as well. Throwing furniture in does not lower my bottom line. I have to pay for my harvestors as well. The sentiment is great and to tell you the truth I was already doing that. I don't know what the answer is..

Frustrated..

Graff Saiatsu

Lowca Server..

I dont get how players will hunt down a armorsmith and pay 17k for armor with a smile on there face thanking the armorsmith but have issues buying a deed for over 15k. (please dont miss understand, armor smiths like most of us crafters work hard to find all there mats and deserve to be paided)

Architects dont cheapen yourselfs. They are worth more then 10k and even 15k without a doubt. For those that would like to disagree with this fine dont buy one,but understand what goes into a single house compared to the other things that you buy. 18 in chem, 960 in metal, 2460 in ore (have you tried to retrieve this much in any material?) Ask your favorate armorsmith or weaponsmith what mats go into that armor or weapon and just maybe you'll think twice about that price of a house.

For those who might say "but you have harvesters!" guess what so do all the other crafters you gladly pay big credits to. I'll go one better to bring up maint. that have to be paid on those very harvesters that get the mats to build that house or other crafted item.

Thank you

I havent started the housing yet, just got eng 4 last night and will be grinding to architect this weekend...and you shold all be gladi destroyed many items did not give away...but I would not build anything for anyone in particular without half the money upo front. I got butned to many times in RL to do anything like that virtual. And as I ran from town to town in the desert at night trying to complete missions to keep harvestors healthy I see why so many are pissed at the 10K people.

Artisan note I went on wanderhome last night to start another character when bria went down, they either need artisans or need to read these forums, the guns sucked.

I am starting to sway towards a federation, my stuff has not moved in the last few days and I was selling really well up until this week. I was hoping that education woudl catch up but it doesnt seem it will. I was never in thiks for glory or money but it seems the grinders with PAs behind them are getting the house markets and others saturated, no one knows what to sell and the crap that is out there is just sad. I think I am gettign to where the veteran betas have been since launch seeing what could be and what is....I may be swaying to the dark side. Without running missions I can't keep my harvestors going, unless I sell. I haven't sold but I have ground a bunch of junk to destroy or mod myslef. The few nice crafted stuff I have been making have been for me or friends. I dont sell my lower stuff I can't afford to make the higher stuff and who eventually startrs suffering?? the population of Tatooine on bria.

I really think those who are just in it for the money will see it dry up and they will get bored and move on...hopefully sooner than later. ANd I am not too good on economincs, but you can't sell a CDEF for 15 and make money, and I have seen it.

Good Luck and have fun

These prices are going to go even lower. The supply for small houses will outweigh the demand for quite a while so people are going to need money and have to sell them for what they can get.

Yes I agree (as an architect even in beta) that they should be worth more but thats just the way the economy works. Its not going to surprise me one bit to see them for 3k on the bazzar soon.

Look I as a novice architech can't compet with the people making hosue for exp. They sell them for 10k quickly to make money for harvasters so they can get more ore to make more house. I Cant even sell houses for 10k anymore. I sat in the middle of town spaming houses for sell and now one would even buy one. The worst thing the devs did was making so PA's needed master ARCH to build PA halls , now every pa are all working together to power lev there architech and gives out free or houses for cheep there are 47 registered pa on my server , and I would say 9% of the server plays architechs and I would say 70% of those arhitechs are part of a pa. So who is left on the server to buy houses. It there is a novice archtech around every corner and 70% of them have unlimited resorses. Who do you think will under cut the price first. I have to sell my houses for 10k , I tryed to sell 2 yesterday all day for 12k and you know what I still have the deeds to the houses

Not 3k, unless thier giving them away for less then they paid to make them, but certainly the small houses will be in the 5-7k Range to be sure in a few weeks.

I was (I thought) the first architect on my server. I start gathering resources and run into 2 more. So no prob, I have a little competition. I take a couple days gathering resources, and in that time I run into 5 more? Long story short Now I have Furniture 1, house 1, installions 1. I am making deeds for better looking small houses. And next I hear therie is a PA hall already built. Competition is tough. Prices will change. Thats how an economy runs.

If you want further proof check this post...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Chilastra&message.id=3616

.............10k?..........people are selling houses for.....10k? WHAT THE FU...er...FUDGE IS WRONG WITH THEM?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Im working on being an artcitect....but if people are selling houses that @$&%ing cheap...whats the $%&*ing point? noone will want houses anymore...and there wont even be room for anymore...plus the lag....c'mon,im only at eng 2...wisen up you idiots......doyou know how much you can make with houses?.....most are worth at least...at VERY least 20k...get with the game...make people work for their homes...and make some money too...

P.S. please excuse the laungauge and dont report me...i tried to be as...um...non-offensive as possible...

I guess I'm going to have to try the furnishing idea, it's a good one.

I had a customer contact me about a house, I answered all his questions very nicely and in depth. Then I tell him the small is 25k.

The response was........Whoa!

He can get the house for 9k on Tatooine. I tried to explain how much it costs for harvesters, and how I can't compete with large PAs, but of course he didn't care, he can get it cheaper.

This is killing my business because now no one thinks houses are worth anything. Part of the problem is that adminned people cannot drop things, therefore houses are only useful to one person. Not such a big deal, really, when one person can GET 25k IN A FEW HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sick of getting these messages. Can someone please explain to the morons selling low that they get like 100 UXP, if that? IT'S NOT WORTH IT. These actions are like beating yourself in the head repeatadly.I refuse to talk to customers who do not think my time is worth as much as theirs.

The market is ruined, forget Architect and move to another skill.