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I was a master smuggler/mbh/pistoleer 0400 full cl80 toon and I converted to a CL80 toon, lost my master title and now have to grind three boxes to master, which the experience bar tells me requires 12 millin combat exp for the next box...I'm assuming the two after that are at least as much, so I will have to grind at least 36 million in combat exp to master a profession I already mastered?

Oh and I didn't get any of the rewards newbies will.

I hope this is a bug, but if it isn't, I expect we will see a lot of cancellations.

Oh and I only got a couple hundred exp from killing a cl79 toon, so I can imagine this grind will take forever.

Message Edited by lurdanta on 11-08-2005 11:09 AM

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lurdanta wrote:
Ok it seems it isn't as bad as I thought. The 12 mill it said I need isn't per box, but now exp is banked, which is to say you don't lose it when you level up. I have, something I overlooked before, 11 million banked and need 500k for the next box, but the box after that won't require another 12 mill as it was in the past, but only maybe 500K more. It looks as though exp is accumlated and you get levels upon reaching various thresholds....a box at 12 mill, another at 12.5 mill another at 13 mill and one more at 13.5 say, with exp steadily banking.

Sorry for the confusion.

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To add to what you said, Quests give out tons of XP when completed. That, plus the xp you get rom killing the npc's in the quests, gives you great xp. Im still ticked about not getting the newbie profession items (ie Smuggler backpack), and its not a bug. The devs said we would not get them.

Hopefully this will change closer to live. It seems the jedi are HELPING us out with this cause they wont get the new robes and stuff either. So for once, their whinning and moaning will help to benefit us!

You are saying all the old jedi will not get the new items they were promised? Who gets the smuggler backpacks then if they exist?

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lurdanta wrote:
I was a master smuggler/mbh/pistoleer 0400 full cl80 toon and I converted to a CL80 toon, lost my master title and now have to grind three boxes to master, which the experience bar tells me requires 12 millin combat exp for the next box...I'm assuming the two after that are at least as much, so I will have to grind at least 36 million in combat exp to master a profession I already mastered?

Oh and I didn't get any of the rewards newbies will.

I hope this is a bug, but if it isn't, I expect we will see a lot of cancellations.

Oh and I only got a couple hundred exp from killing a cl79 toon, so I can imagine this grind will take forever.

Message Edited by lurdanta on 11-08-2005 11:09 AM

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That's because you aren't a Master Smuggler. You're a CL 80 Smuggler. When you get to CL90....then you will be a Master Smuggler again. It sucks they took away the title, but you get to earn it back by doing new stuff. Not too bad IMO.

We'll all be doing the same thing.

Ok it seems it isn't as bad as I thought. The 12 mill it said I need isn't per box, but now exp is banked, which is to say you don't lose it when you level up. I have, something I overlooked before, 11 million banked and need 500k for the next box, but the box after that won't require another 12 mill as it was in the past, but only maybe 500K more. It looks as though exp is accumlated and you get levels upon reaching various thresholds....a box at 12 mill, another at 12.5 mill another at 13 mill and one more at 13.5 say, with exp steadily banking.

Sorry for the confusion.

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KloudRunner wrote:

So stuff like the Smuggler pendant, the vest, shirt, pants, boots, belt, backpack, Rogue armour, the pistols

ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT WHEN LEVELING UP IN SMUGGLER WE WONT GET ?

Thats insulting to say the least. As Smugglers of ALL combat levels every smuggler HELL EVERY PLAYER THAT RESPECS should be entitled to what is owed to him within his proffesion. Especially considering many of these items are Non trade.

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I think Tiggs said something about bringing this to the Dev's attention and asking if it was "as intended" or not.

As long as my Spec Ops Field Agent packs convert properly, and I can still equip them, I don't really care about a bunch of loot that EVERY new smuggler is going to have, even if they do have stats.

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LM wrote:

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KloudRunner wrote:

So stuff like the Smuggler pendant, the vest, shirt, pants, boots, belt, backpack, Rogue armour, the pistols

ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT WHEN LEVELING UP IN SMUGGLER WE WONT GET ?

Thats insulting to say the least. As Smugglers of ALL combat levels every smuggler HELL EVERY PLAYER THAT RESPECS should be entitled to what is owed to him within his proffesion. Especially considering many of these items are Non trade.

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I think Tiggs said something about bringing this to the Dev's attention and asking if it was "as intended" or not.

The problem might be that since vets get 10 "respecs" they would receive every reward for every class they tried...

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they could temporarily shut it off like they did with badges, til the respecs ended.

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Keck_is_banned wrote:

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LM wrote:

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KloudRunner wrote:

So stuff like the Smuggler pendant, the vest, shirt, pants, boots, belt, backpack, Rogue armour, the pistols

ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT WHEN LEVELING UP IN SMUGGLER WE WONT GET ?

Thats insulting to say the least. As Smugglers of ALL combat levels every smuggler HELL EVERY PLAYER THAT RESPECS should be entitled to what is owed to him within his proffesion. Especially considering many of these items are Non trade.

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I think Tiggs said something about bringing this to the Dev's attention and asking if it was "as intended" or not.

The problem might be that since vets get 10 "respecs" they would receive every reward for every class they tried...

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they could temporarily shut it off like they did with badges, til the respecs ended.

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True, but then I *think* the way it is structured, you might be at a disadvantage in your class if you don't have the rewards, so it might be hard to really test out each class without them. Does anyone know if this is true?

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LM wrote:

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KloudRunner wrote:

So stuff like the Smuggler pendant, the vest, shirt, pants, boots, belt, backpack, Rogue armour, the pistols

ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT WHEN LEVELING UP IN SMUGGLER WE WONT GET ?

Thats insulting to say the least. As Smugglers of ALL combat levels every smuggler HELL EVERY PLAYER THAT RESPECS should be entitled to what is owed to him within his proffesion. Especially considering many of these items are Non trade.

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I think Tiggs said something about bringing this to the Dev's attention and asking if it was "as intended" or not.

The problem might be that since vets get 10 "respecs" they would receive every reward for every class they tried...

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KloudRunner wrote:

So stuff like the Smuggler pendant, the vest, shirt, pants, boots, belt, backpack, Rogue armour, the pistols

ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT WHEN LEVELING UP IN SMUGGLER WE WONT GET ?

Thats insulting to say the least. As Smugglers of ALL combat levels every smuggler HELL EVERY PLAYER THAT RESPECS should be entitled to what is owed to him within his proffesion. Especially considering many of these items are Non trade.

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I think they are pulling the model of other MMORPGs. Lets say you get yourself a CL20 item, once you get the CL25 item, your CL20 item goes in the trash compactor.

Typically you go through 16 sets (not a joke here) of equipment while you are leveling. So the developers are not going to give out all the low level items as you level up. They should just be giving us the top tier item of each type that corospond to the level you start at (in this case CL80)

Message Edited by rexan on 11-09-2005 11:31 AM

So stuff like the Smuggler pendant, the vest, shirt, pants, boots, belt, backpack, Rogue armour, the pistols

ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT WHEN LEVELING UP IN SMUGGLER WE WONT GET ?

Thats insulting to say the least. As Smugglers of ALL combat levels every smuggler HELL EVERY PLAYER THAT RESPECS should be entitled to what is owed to him within his proffesion. Especially considering many of these items are Non trade.