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Thread: Wes, seriously, I have one thing I need from you
As one voice we need to reject this. If we don't then I think it is entirely likely that we will be regarded as having had our chance and they'll move on to something else.
While I agree it's a start, it's too little too late. Thinking that we can be placated with a bare bones NPC delivery mission terminal while such glaring omissions as non-space Smuggling remain is insulting and naieve.
We need to make a clear and obvious statement that we are PAYING customers who are in no way happy with this treatment. Many and greater Smugglers than I have made the ultimate statement by quitting the game. Personally, I'm refusing to buy any more expansions and am holding on til my subscription runs out to see what remains in the game to keep me here.
Simply put, we need to say that we wholeheartedly reject this 'revamp' and if it is implemented, we walk and take our dollars with us, cursing the name of the their company to every person who will listen, 'til we're safely underground or Han once again shoots first, whichever comes first.
WesBelden wrote:
My thoughts? I tend to take the view that having something implemented in live with the chance and wait for extra features is better than having nothing implemented with just the same chance (ie it may not happen, nature of chance after all) and the long wait to boot, but that’s just me.
As I've always said, I'm here to represent you lot, not push my own agenda. I've included this in the thread I've writen and will be posting tommorow (I'd rather be sure everyone's in the office when I do), along with a fair number of comments that have been made about each answer specifically.
Edit: correcting monkey grammar.Message Edited by WesBelden on 10-13-2005 02:10 AM
I can see your point, but to me, we're accepting an apple, when we really wanted an orange. And no matter what they add to the apple, if they dip it in caramel, coat it with nuts, drizzle chocolate, sprinkle it with m&ms, it's still not going to be an orange. That and there's a worm in it.
EDIT: ANNNNNNNND we need the vitamin C from the orange to prevent scurvy. (I had to take the analogy up to that next level)
Message Edited by Keck_is_banned on 10-13-2005 06:38 AM
Keck_is_banned wrote:
I can see your point, but to me, we're accepting an apple, when we really wanted an orange. And no matter what they add to the apple, if they dip it in caramel, coat it with nuts, drizzle chocolate, sprinkle it with m&ms, it's still not going to be an orange. That and there's a worm in it.
EDIT: ANNNNNNNND we need the vitamin C from the orange to prevent scurvy. (I had to take the analogy up to that next level)
Message Edited by Keck_is_banned on 10-13-200506:38 AM
QFE
I'm all for accepting a partially implemented system with the hope of more content in the future. However, I'd like for the step toward smuggling to be in the right direction at least. This, to me, seems to be the wrong direction. We need to turn SOE around, if possible, just point and say, "Start going that way." If we just get a ground version with no JTL, no big deal, as long as it's possible later and the system itself makes some sense.
Duedroth-
I posted it last night with Dewcatti so just look in my post history for this account. I'm pretty sure it was in the "answers" thread since that's where Wes asked for point by point replies.
Just wanted to chime in another agreement.
So, I uhhhh, agree.....again....
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
Tante wrote:
It is ridiculous that we will be punished for carrying something that everyone else may just carry without punishment.
Bingo.
Bingo the Clowno!
Oh yeah, and /sign
/agree
/sign
Lets face it we're not getting any answers so we wouldn't riot knowing that our revamp is to get an upgrade to ranger fodder. Why this happened ? Cause rangers decided to be smart and change their professions from hunters that no devs give a s%&$t about to cross breed of rifleman and BHs. They just needed to get some marks to hunt and as Jedi are already taken... here come the smugglers. I say it wouldn't all be so bad at all if rangers got as much attention as BHs and we would be nursed like Jedi and get content we need (smuggling and that WITH space).
However it will end quite differently. Most of smugglers that keep master smuggler are cl 55s with no Ub3r combat dmg/def/heal abilities, people that know everything about avoiding the fight, escaping, using poor AI coding at their advantage, using their brains.
When confronted with kids, that got used to clicking on I-win-another-oooh!-so-extra-sUp3R-c00l-|<iLL macros we'll soon see a huge outcry:
that we avoid combat, that we deliver our cargo too easy, that our abilities are too powerful and need to be nerfed, that FD needs to be removed, that we are exploiters, that KD+concussion is unfair, that we shouldn't be able to use any vehichles while transporting cargo etc.
and devs gonna be soooooooo busy nerf... I mean balancing the game, removing spice and FD that we'll never ever see any real smuggling EVER!(sooner they'll just remove entire profession to get rid of the problem)
tee-hee, it just means, that smuggs are most sexy
Kal_Serrakwrote:
Karlena wrote:
Keck_is_banned wrote:
I've been looking at a lot of these posts, and I wholeheartedly agree with them.
We need one thing from you. We need you to go to the Correspondent boards, forget any previous posts you've made there. We need a new one.
Title: In Regards to the IC Smuggler Concept.
Subject: NO.
That's right, NO. Refuse it. Something is NOT better than nothing, and if they give us this something, they'll wash their hands of it, and we will NEVER be fixed. EVER. Refuse this piece of trash outright. Get the community behind it. Not, "Let's work with them." Working with them doesn't work. It's time to take a REAL stand, and say bluntly, "We are not accepting this."
QFE
/sign
Oh crackers.. What does it mean when Entertainers feel another profession needs help...
profession in the game and we'd still skim all girls even if our only 'special' ability would be sending /tell -s
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
I'd rather not have a revamp if it means getting a half-assed version of one that still doesn't deliver the gameplay we should have had since launch.
/agree