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Oh, that's the next expansion. They're enslaving everyone and having them build a pyramid in their honor.

Because it's not like we'll say no...

Message Edited by Keck_is_banned on 10-12-2005 03:13 PM

It's a reference to Egypt and the slaves that built the pyramids.

Pharaoh, let our people go.

My thoughts? I tend to take the view that having something implemented in live with the chance and wait for extra features is better than having nothing implemented with just the same chance (ie it may not happen, nature of chance after all ) and the long wait to boot, but that’s just me.

As I've always said, I'm here to represent you lot, not push my own agenda. I've included this in the thread I've writen and will be posting tommorow (I'd rather be sure everyone's in the office when I do), along with a fair number of comments that have been made about each answer specifically.

Edit: correcting monkey grammar.

Message Edited by WesBelden on 10-13-2005 02:10 AM

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WesBelden wrote:
My thoughts? I tend to take the view that having something implemented in live with the chance and wait for extra features is better than having nothing implemented with just the same chance (ie it may not happen, nature of chance after all ) and the long wait to boot, but that’s just me.

As I've always said, I'm here to represent you lot, not push my own agenda. I've included this in the thread I've writen and will be posting tommorow (I'd rather be sure everyone's in the office when I do), along with a fair number of comments that have been made about each answer specifically.

Edit: correcting monkey grammar.

Message Edited by WesBelden on 10-13-200502:10 AM

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This is nothing Wes. Please go read my point for point post like you asked for. What they're saying IS NOT smuggling. It's a delivery system. It's asking to be punished for carrying the same stuff everyone else is. Hell, the contradictions between Ranger interaction in our missions and our own involvement is enough to think this is all one big joke.

They have not thought this thing through. They have not dedicated themselves to a smuggling system. They are trying to through something together to say it's done, like slicing only worse.

Apparently they didn't get the point of what we were saying before. Smuggling is just a content addition to them. It's meaningless and apparantly they think this is legitimate.

At the very least, we deserve a whole lot more. If they're still willing to revamp professions, damnit we deserve a better smuggling system than this.

Wes, first things first. I understand your opinion about "getting at least something".

But there is a problem with what Tiggs said and it's really important that they realize this. Maybe don't just write a NO, but post a link to this thread please and the other threads that emerged here.

It is ridiculous that we will be punished for carrying something that everyone else may just carry without punishment.

Having a real contraband system is the absolute key and most important feature in a Smuggler revamp. Without it it's not worth working on (in my opinion).

So I do agree with the OP: NO to the suggested things.

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Dewcatti wrotelease go read my point for point post like you asked for.

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Already done and compiled. So you know, I don't need things spelled out to me to such a degree (indicating this thread, not your PbP reply). I fully understand what everyone's feeling, because I'm feeling it myself..

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WesBelden wrote:

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Dewcatti wrote: Please go read my point for point post like you asked for.

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Already done and compiled. So you know, I don't need things spelled out to me to such a degree (indicating this thread, not your PbP reply). I fully understand what everyone's feeling, because I'm feeling it myself..

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Dewcatti wrote:

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WesBelden wrote:

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Dewcatti wrote: Please go read my point for point post like you asked for.

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Already done and compiled. So you know, I don't need things spelled out to me to such a degree (indicating this thread, not your PbP reply). I fully understand what everyone's feeling, because I'm feeling it myself..

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I knew you probably already read it. I know you're doing your best.

What I'm trying to get across here Wes is it's ok. It's ok to let go and tell em how you feel. It's how the majority of the community is feeling. Let it out man. Enough with being the proper Brit. (No offense there man.)

You've seen it all before. NOTHING has changed. I just really hate that they're talking about implementing a smuggling system that has NOTHING to do with smuggling. Even by adding space, the way those questions were answered, it's still not smuggling.

Something, in any other context, would be better than nothing. In the context of this game and this company, you've got one shot to get it right. If they don't take care of business here, we're not going to see things get done right ever. They STILL haven't taken care of the crafters post CU. They STILL haven't taken care of the GCW. They STILL haven't done the FRS. Add another expansion in there and you're looking at over a year before we'd even be able to be discussed, forget getting scheduled for development. This has to be done right this time or it won't ever happen.

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can I get a link to this please? I read through your post history but I'm guessing you've been banned/suspended and the post you mention is from another account. I haven't read it and haven't formed any solid opinion on the suggested IC revamp yet. I'd love to read what you had to say.

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Dewcatti wrote:

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WesBelden wrote:

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Dewcatti wrote: Please go read my point for point post like you asked for.

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Already done and compiled. So you know, I don't need things spelled out to me to such a degree (indicating this thread, not your PbP reply). I fully understand what everyone's feeling, because I'm feeling it myself..

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I knew you probably already read it. I know you're doing your best.

What I'm trying to get across here Wes is it's ok. It's ok to let go and tell em how you feel. It's how the majority of the community is feeling. Let it out man. Enough with being the proper Brit. (No offense there man.)

You've seen it all before. NOTHING has changed. I just really hate that they're talking about implementing a smuggling system that has NOTHING to do with smuggling. Even by adding space, the way those questions were answered, it's still not smuggling.

Something, in any other context, would be better than nothing. In the context of this game and this company, you've got one shot to get it right. If they don't take care of business here, we're not going to see things get done right ever. They STILL haven't taken care of the crafters post CU. They STILL haven't taken care of the GCW. They STILL haven't done the FRS. Add another expansion in there and you're looking at over a year before we'd even be able to be discussed, forget getting scheduled for development. This has to be done right this time or it won't ever happen.

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QFE

Totaly agree, this is our one chance man, its all or nothing and if I have to take nothing I will rather than get what they are offering now.

/sign

/sign

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Keck_is_banned wrote:
I've been looking at a lot of these posts, and I wholeheartedly agree with them.

We need one thing from you. We need you to go to the Correspondent boards, forget any previous posts you've made there. We need a new one.

Title: In Regards to the IC Smuggler Concept.

Subject: NO.

That's right, NO. Refuse it. Something is NOT better than nothing, and if they give us this something, they'll wash their hands of it, and we will NEVER be fixed. EVER. Refuse this piece of trash outright. Get the community behind it. Not, "Let's work with them." Working with them doesn't work. It's time to take a REAL stand, and say bluntly, "We are not accepting this."

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