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Thread: So You Fired Tiggs?

St_James
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:13 pm
#287






Flagoo wrote:






The name calling needs to stop

Message Edited by Ashlanne on 11-09-2005 02:04 PM



The Julio Torres needs to stop







/rofl


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sebastainlenzi
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:13 pm
#288






damicatz wrote:





sebastainlenzi wrote:







Mariki wrote:

Lol, do you mean to stand here and say Tiggs is responsable for the mess SWG is??? LOL, thats the funniest thing I have read on this boards in a long time. Its so absurd its funny that anyone could even think that. It would be just so simple for SOE if that was the case








obviously if she got fired then yes i believe she is to blame for some of it. She held a Directors position........that means that the only person above her in a normal heirachy is the VICE PRESIDENT........so yes, i do place blame on her sholders



Message Edited by sebastainlenzi on 11-09-2005 04:10 PM






Um there were lots of "Directors of Community Relation". Wasn't TH one too? In SOE, director means nothing.



Directors generally report to a vice president of a division or work group.....





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Pawlin
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:15 pm
#289






GotBlueMilk wrote:



...It's hard to be a beekeeper when your boss keeps shaking the hive.





Testify to that.


and


/salute Tiggs


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AkashaMille
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:16 pm
#290

Bye Tiggs, we will miss you.

I'm afraid to meet the next puppet SOE will bring to your position.




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Mariki
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:17 pm
#291






sebastainlenzi wrote:







Mariki wrote:

Lol, do you mean to stand here and say Tiggs is responsable for the mess SWG is??? LOL, thats the funniest thing I have read on this boards in a long time. Its so absurd its funny that anyone could even think that. It would be just so simple for SOE if that was the case








obviously if she got fired then yes i believe she is to blame for some of it. She held a Directors position........that means that the only person above her in a normal heirachy is the VICE PRESIDENT........so yes, i do place blame on her sholders



Message Edited by sebastainlenzi on 11-09-2005 04:10 PM



Lol, underestand she is in community relations. What you are saying is equivilent of holding a telephone operator responsable if your phone goes out. Don't let titles go to your head, she did none of the designing of SWG. She made none of the NGE design decisions. She is the go between between us and the Dev's and thats it. If the dev's tell her nothing, she has nothing she can tell us. She is not even allowed to spin her own information, thats marketing.




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Stryfermon
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:17 pm
#292



Good luck in the future.



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St_James
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:17 pm
#293

Tiggs... You either loved her or hated her


/sigh


I will miss the Tiggs





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Keatsnam
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:17 pm
#294

Even as someone who has been vocal about what I saw as being poor community relations, I am sad for Tiggs if she got laid off. I've survived several mergers and layoffs, and even seeing people that probably deserved to let go is not easy.

Part of the problem is that "Community Relations" is a misnomer. SOE doesn't care about truth or customer relations, they want a spin doctor yesman. I have to imagine that would bother anyone in the position. Look at how long Calyndryll lasted - he also disappeared under mysterious circumstances. So if Tiggs left on her own accord, I say good job - stick it to the man.
sebastainlenzi
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:22 pm
#295



/deep bow to tiggs "the companies mouth piece"



I really started off mad at the NGE and blamed tiggs, i mean i still am pissed about the NGE and in my opinion Tiggs was still apart of keeping up such a nice face while behind the scenes, the scenes that she was fully aware of, lied to us.



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Message Edited by sebastainlenzi on 11-09-2005 04:25 PM




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Mariki
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:24 pm
#296






Keatsnam wrote:
Even as someone who has been vocal about what I saw as being poor community relations, I am sad for Tiggs if she got laid off. I've survived several mergers and layoffs, and even seeing people that probably deserved to let go is not easy.

Part of the problem is that "Community Relations" is a misnomer. SOE doesn't care about truth or customer relations, they want a spin doctor yesman. I have to imagine that would bother anyone in the position. Look at how long Calyndryll lasted - he also disappeared under mysterious circumstances. So if Tiggs left on her own accord, I say good job - stick it to the man.



It is all too obvious SOE kept her in the dark for their own reasons. Even the announcement of the NGE wasn't given to her.I think Tiggs was getting too close to many of the players and they didn't trust her.

Message Edited by Mariki on 11-09-200504:28 PM

Message Edited by Mariki on 11-09-2005 04:29 PM



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Arnwald
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:24 pm
#297

Hello Tiggs,



first the NGE then this, well this is going crazy.


I never saw such poor communication nor so bad client management so far in my short human life.


I'd suggest you to write a book on you experience at SOE, I'm pretty sure you would earn a lot of $$$, considering this will be THE example of whatnot to do.


I can tellI wasn't your best supporter but I know you where in a very difficult position as you where either obliged to lie to the customers or hide facts to us.


You done your best and I hope you'll find a new job fast, one who fits better for you.


You need to work with open minded people, who cares for the customers and are eager to listen form them.


SOE was definively the wrong place for you.


May I suggest you having a look at WoW?


There you can feel the devs cares for the players and they are doing their best to make people have fun.


Farewell and don't be fooled you done a great and difficult job.


BTW SOE designers and producers s**edit**x


/tiphat
Arnwald
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:28 pm
#298






Keatsnam wrote:
Even as someone who has been vocal about what I saw as being poor community relations, I am sad for Tiggs if she got laid off. I've survived several mergers and layoffs, and even seeing people that probably deserved to let go is not easy.

Part of the problem is that "Community Relations" is a misnomer. SOE doesn't care about truth or customer relations, they want a spin doctor yesman. I have to imagine that would bother anyone in the position. Look at how long Calyndryll lasted - he also disappeared under mysterious circumstances. So if Tiggs left on her own accord, I say good job - stick it to the man.



QFE, sad but true, it's only about $$$ and it's funny because I think they couldn't find better ways to sink the game than they are actually doing...

gladiatory2k
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:31 pm
#299

Happy Trails tiggs.



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