Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: The Disruptor Rifle
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Kakeemono
Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:29 am
#1
From Arrya's post:::
Tenloss DXR6 Rifle (aka Disruptor Rifle)
Location: Geonosian Lab
Method Obtained: Looted from (I think there is a specific NPC that drops it?)
Required Skill: ?
Item Details: 5 uses, 50% Cond /50% OQ
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100 Titanium Aluminum
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40 Platinite Copper
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15 Duralumin Aluminum
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5 Identical Blaster Power Handlers
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2 Identical Geonosian Power Cubes
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1 Blaster Rifle Barrel
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1 Optional Weapon Scope
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1 Optional Rifle Stock
A. Power Handle
Krayt Dragon Tissue
Found On: Juvenile/Canyon/Ancient Krayt Dragons
Location: Tatooine
Enhances:+30 (to 300) to Max Damage, -0.3 (to -2.0) to Speed
High Powered Energy Capacitor
Found On: Nym NPCs, Droideka
Location: Lok
Enhances: +20 to Max Damage
Large/High Energy Capacitor
Found On: Any NPCs
Location: Anywhere
Enhances:-0.2 to Speed
G. Geonosian Power Cubes
Yellow Geonosian power cube
Found On: ?
Found On: ?
Location: Geonosian Lab
Item Details: +10 (to +20) minimum damage, +10 (to +20) Max damage, 3% base effect
Item Details: +10 (to +20) minimum damage, +10 (to +20) Max damage, 3% base effect
F. Projectile Rifle Barrel
High Caliber Projectile Rifle Barrel
Found on: Imperial Theme Park Look (2-10 units)
Found on: Imperial Theme Park Look (2-10 units)
Location: Emperor's Retreat
Item Details: 25 min, 30 max, -0.4 speed, +20 wound, +15 ideal range mod.
Item Details: 25 min, 30 max, -0.4 speed, +20 wound, +15 ideal range mod.
C. Stocks
Form-fitted Weapon Stock
Found on: Imperial Theme Park Look (2-10 units)
Found on: Imperial Theme Park Look (2-10 units)
Location: Emperor's Retreat
Item Details: 25 min, 30 max, -0.5 speed, +10 wound, +15 ideal range mod.
Dont want the scope b/c of the HAM costs...
After the first time Ijust finished reading Arrya's comprehensive list of loot items and enhancments and what-not, I went and gathered, but I just finished talking to a master weaponsmith and he said most of the components he can make are better than the drop/loot items.
He also said the that the cube colordid not matter for a Master Weaponsmith... and that the high projectile rifle barrels cannot be used in a Disruptor. I was just reading Arrya's post and it said they could be used! Now I am confused.
The reason I bring this up was that after reading Arrya's post, I began to collect all the different parts to make the ultimate Disruptor. So far, I have gathered the 6 identical krayt tissue, 2 yellow geo cubes, a form-fitting stock, a high calibur projectile rifle barrel, the schematic, and am currently searching for 6 high powered energy capacitors. Have I been going around getting this stuff for nothing b/c the weaponsmith can make stuff that is better than these looted components?
One more question, can BOTH krayt tissue and high powered energy capacitors be used in the BlasterPower Handlers? or is it one or the other?
Here is what I have now. Please tell me if the stuff you make at master weaponsmith is truly better than these or not.
Form-Fitted Stock: (weaponsmith said his were better)
minimum dmg=25
max dmg=30
spd= -0.5
wound=10
ideal range=15
Capacitors:
max dmg=24
Yellow Cubes: (weaponsmith said they didint matter?)
min dmg=13
max dmg=18
base effectiveness= 4%
High calibur projectile rifle barrel: (said his were better)
min dmg=25
max dmg=30
speed= -0.4
wound=10
ideal range=15
Krayt tissue:
the 57 max dmg ones.
He actually said the only thing that will help is krayt tissue and the rest did not matter.
LLJK_Griz
Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:02 am
#2
Crafted stocks are NOT better than the form-fitted. Crafted stocks have up to 40/40 min/max damage but have +.3 to +.6 speed instead of -.5, worse accuracy, and huge HAM costs.
Disruptor rifle requires a blaster rifle barrel, so your projectile rifle barrels are not usable (they're only used in tusken and berserker rifles). I know there's a blaster pistol barrel from one of the themeparks but I'm not sure if there's a rifle barrel.
The weapon has very high HAM costs already so you might as well add a scope since it's not really going to be usable unbuffed. Also, regular scopes add 0 HAM and around 12 accuracy, advanced scopes with good resources add 3 HAM 22 accuracy or 13 HAM 39 accuracy.
Cube color DOES matter. White cubes do nothing, yellow increases min/max damage by ~10, green increases durability by ~250, red reduces HAM by ~4. The disruptor has very low condition so green cubes would be the best choice, especially if you're using other expensive parts like krayt tissue and the form-fitted stock. Repair is broken since publish 7 so you want the thing to last as long as possible before you have to take a 20% condition loss on repair.
The capacitors cannot be used with krayt tissue, it's either one or the other. The capacitors are like crappy krayt tissue; they improve either damage or speed by a small amount whereas krayt improves both by larger amounts.
Your weaponsmith sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about; I would recommend finding someone else.
MicoPopenay
Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:40 am
#3
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regular scopes add 0 HAM
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regular scopes add 0 HAM
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Even regular scopes with 0 HAM still add 1 HAM.
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White cubes do nothing
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I have had white cubes with +10 min/max damage.
rimalz
Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:55 am
#4
Screenshots. Damage is the domain of yellow cubes. Are you sure they weren't black?
MicoPopenay wrote:
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White cubes do nothing
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I have had white cubes with +10 min/max damage.
MicoPopenay
Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:09 am
#5
I don't have a screen shot as I used them in making a Scythe.
But I used them specifically in that Scythe cause of the damage increase.
Just saying what I saw
And no... I did not confuse them with the 14/14 Solidifying Agents I used either
But I used them specifically in that Scythe cause of the damage increase.
Just saying what I saw
And no... I did not confuse them with the 14/14 Solidifying Agents I used either
MicoPopenay
Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:26 am
#6
I will see what I got left when I get home and post some screenies.
I am SURE they exist! Unless I am going crazy.
I am SURE they exist! Unless I am going crazy.
d0qtrX
Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:23 am
#7
rimalz wrote:
Screenshots. Damage is the domain of yellow cubes. Are you sure they weren't black?
MicoPopenay wrote:
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White cubes do nothing
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I have had white cubes with +10 min/max damage.
I also call BS. Show me the screenie.
Reldun
Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:29 am
#8
I think you are confusing white cubes with yellows. Haven't even heard of a white cube having any kind of damage stats, sorry but bs until you get a screenie. After as many as I have made though I can see how you could easliy confuse white with yellow.
Jedi_Titus
Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:40 am
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LLJK_Griz wrote:
Your weaponsmith sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about; I would recommend finding someone else.
Yep, I agree. No knowledgeable weaponsmith would claim that their crafted stocks are better than form-fitted stocks... unless you specifically say you want maximized and don't care about speed. All crafted stocks slow the weapon down and add HAM but the form-fitted stock speeds the weapon up with no HAM cost at all! That more than compensates for the lower damage addition in my opinion.
Kakeemono
Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:29 pm
#10
LLJK_Griz wrote:
Disruptor rifle requires a blaster rifle barrel, so your projectile rifle barrels are not usable (they're only used in tusken and berserker rifles). I know there's a blaster pistol barrel from one of the themeparks but I'm not sure if there's a rifle barrel.
Anyone know if a Blaster Rifle Barrel exists?
I noticed a guy on the Bria trade forums asking to buy any that poeple loot. I assume they would drop from Nyms if they did loot.
Xieflow
Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:15 pm
#11
If you want the "most uber best" Disruptor rifle:
1) Blaster Rifle Barrel : Your best bet here is to hold out until an exceptional blaster rifle barrel drops. If you don't get the drop yourself, the barrel might sell for a few million credits (Basically uber rich weaponsmiths getting in a bidding war)
2) Weapon Scope : Two choices here, both player crafted. You can either go with a 0 HAM scope that adds between 10 - 12 to ideal range, or you can go with a high HAM (20 - 30) advanced scope that adds about 40 to ideal range.
3) Power Handlers : Wait until 6 identical "exceptional" krayt tissues drop. AKA: Over 100 to damage.
4) Form Fitted Stock : There is NO WAY IN HELL anyone can craft better than this. Why? FFS has *NO* HAM cost *AND* it speeds a weapon up instead of slowing it down!
5) Power Cubes : Wait for some exceptional yellow cubes. "Standard" yellows are 10 min / 10 max. I've seen yellow cubes as high as 20 / 20. OR You can go for good green cubes (standard are about +250 condition, I've seen good ones drop that are over +350 condition)
If you want a reasonable "uber" Disruptor Rifle:
1) Blaster Rifle Barrel : Go for a player-crafted advanced blaster rifle barrel. It's a very small bit slower than a regular one, however it has about 5 or 6 more damage, and MUCH higher bonus to ideal range
2) Weapon scope : Same as above
3) Power Handlers : Just use medium range krayt tissues (aka around 50 to 70 damage. Using play 30 krayt tissues won't get you something that is very "uber")
4) Same as above
5) Power Cubes : Don't hold out for "uber" cubes. Just toss some standard greens in (for better condition!), or if you REALLY want an extra 10 to min/max damage, throw in yellows
1) Blaster Rifle Barrel : Your best bet here is to hold out until an exceptional blaster rifle barrel drops. If you don't get the drop yourself, the barrel might sell for a few million credits (Basically uber rich weaponsmiths getting in a bidding war)
2) Weapon Scope : Two choices here, both player crafted. You can either go with a 0 HAM scope that adds between 10 - 12 to ideal range, or you can go with a high HAM (20 - 30) advanced scope that adds about 40 to ideal range.
3) Power Handlers : Wait until 6 identical "exceptional" krayt tissues drop. AKA: Over 100 to damage.
4) Form Fitted Stock : There is NO WAY IN HELL anyone can craft better than this. Why? FFS has *NO* HAM cost *AND* it speeds a weapon up instead of slowing it down!
5) Power Cubes : Wait for some exceptional yellow cubes. "Standard" yellows are 10 min / 10 max. I've seen yellow cubes as high as 20 / 20. OR You can go for good green cubes (standard are about +250 condition, I've seen good ones drop that are over +350 condition)
If you want a reasonable "uber" Disruptor Rifle:
1) Blaster Rifle Barrel : Go for a player-crafted advanced blaster rifle barrel. It's a very small bit slower than a regular one, however it has about 5 or 6 more damage, and MUCH higher bonus to ideal range
2) Weapon scope : Same as above
3) Power Handlers : Just use medium range krayt tissues (aka around 50 to 70 damage. Using play 30 krayt tissues won't get you something that is very "uber")
4) Same as above
5) Power Cubes : Don't hold out for "uber" cubes. Just toss some standard greens in (for better condition!), or if you REALLY want an extra 10 to min/max damage, throw in yellows
MicoPopenay
Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:19 am
#12
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I think you are confusing white cubes with yellows. Haven't even heard of a white cube having any kind of damage stats, sorry but bs until you get a screenie. After as many as I have made though I can see how you could easliy confuse white with yellow.
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Sorry... I think I must have made a mistake... I was given 50 cubes to make a batch of Disruptors last night and you are correct not one in the bunch was White with damage stats.
Just call me Mr BS
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Sorry... I think I must have made a mistake... I was given 50 cubes to make a batch of Disruptors last night and you are correct not one in the bunch was White with damage stats.
Just call me Mr BS
Kakeemono
Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:50 pm
#13
Xieflow , Exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much.
Just one mroe question. What kind of stats are on player-crafted, advanced blaster rifle barrels? I looted a couple non-exceptional ones and they seemed kinda crappy.
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