Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: is there any good carbine around?
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black-eye
Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:02 pm
#1
Hello m8s,
im currently a MBH ( the second time now ) and i really love to wield different ranged weapons after doin month of melee..... and i tried to enhance this template with a few carbiner and pistoleer skills for defenses and better speed/acc.
especially i love the carbine specials, but tbh, the saberblock is a mess for all ranged fighters, not even the little "BH revamp" made it much better, well i guess the most of u know the problems....
my question is, is there any special carbine wep around? i mean, theres special ones of pistols like geonosian or de 10 or rifle like the berserker or this acid one i miss the name atm. So, is there any lootable special schematic around, or a possibility to use krayt tissues or any other stuff to craft a real good carbine?
thx for ur help 8)
black-eye, trandoshan dragon
Farstar
im currently a MBH ( the second time now ) and i really love to wield different ranged weapons after doin month of melee..... and i tried to enhance this template with a few carbiner and pistoleer skills for defenses and better speed/acc.
especially i love the carbine specials, but tbh, the saberblock is a mess for all ranged fighters, not even the little "BH revamp" made it much better, well i guess the most of u know the problems....
my question is, is there any special carbine wep around? i mean, theres special ones of pistols like geonosian or de 10 or rifle like the berserker or this acid one i miss the name atm. So, is there any lootable special schematic around, or a possibility to use krayt tissues or any other stuff to craft a real good carbine?
thx for ur help 8)
black-eye, trandoshan dragon
Farstar
Ybagi
Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:11 pm
#2
Enhanced E11, looted from imperial theme park, added health DOT to regular E11
Lithumantium carbine, part of the bestine elections, don't think you can get them anymore, stats weren't very good anyway
Nym slug thrower, Nym's theme park, acid damage, not as good as DXR6, but nice looking
of all the ranged professions carbineer could certainly use the most improvement.
dsurfman
Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:16 pm
#3
As a master carbineer and a master weaponsmith I carry a few differnt weapons in my cashe...
1. Krayt Laser Carbine 59-603 3.5
2. Krayt EE3 *Fett Edition* 35-363 2.7 (PuP takes into the 430s)
3. Krayt DRX-6 Carbine not sure on stats dont use it that much, and ofcourse...
4. Krayt Enhanced E11 31- 235 2.2
ana-mo-cara
Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:44 pm
#4
As a fellow MBH good for you takeing interest in carbines. Here are the facts and they are important.
All BH carbine shots are state attacks. This means the Armor Peirceing dosent matter. It means speed is more important. It means low ham costs are important.
My choice is the unstocked dh17 carbine. Low ham and ultraquick hit the spray and switch on over to do damage. For an added bonuse you can get a krayt dh17 with a imperial form fitted stock, and do not bother with scopes or strong barrels. Since your specials do not actually damage other players its a near pointless endeavor anyway.
Underhand is the only shot that can do damage,and that is if its the first shot with a multiplyer like FKD its hard to make being its a total dice roll. Plus you do not get a dizzy with this and useing the spray first negates any first hit knockdown bonus.
Fire Knock Down. If your into hitting this twenty times to know a player down your in trouble. This is a last resort shot. Wherever whoever or whatever is about to take you down and you have nothing to lose.
Sprayshot. Does no damage but applies dizzy blind and stunned. This will decrease the melee stackers defense, but its not for dealing damage with better to swich up to a pistol or llc after you have applied this.
So here is where you are at the carbines damage only matters on the first shot of underhand, and thats about it. FKD dosent care about anything damage ap accuracy. Total dice roll. Sprayshot will stick with a cdef. So once again why use a slower more ham intensive weapon.
Unstocked dh17/ Krayt dh17 with a form fitted stock for ultra fast. Is my number one pick. My second pick is not actually a crafted carbine. That is the DOT cdef you can loot from the chests in the blueleaf temple on yavin. This is mostly a terror weapon. You start fireing away on the enemy with. You start off with a pistol burn and bleed the target. Then switch up and sprayshot the target. The dot is hard to stick, but once it does you will usually send your opponent running in fear. They now assume that you have combat medic since they saw no melee and your running the other way. They can only assume you used some uber cm poison.
This is great because you can either get away or turn and chase them. It will take them thirty seconds to realize the poison is not bad, and probabally another thirty seconds to stand and fight.
black-eye
Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:45 pm
#5
thx for ur replies..... well as i see i alrdy own one of all this expect this lithumantium one but i guess i never saw it anyway.... hmm, so the Laser carbine seems still to be the most powerfull one, ever was wandering about the elite carbine that u get certified as novice, even the laser carbine is much better and has higher AP.
but if i understand right the laser could also be krayted, coz 600 max dmg seems real good to me as mine is sliced to only 400 around, 420 i believe. so, is a good tissue all i would need to let a WS craft me one like this?
black-eye, trandoshan dragon
FarStar Galaxy
but if i understand right the laser could also be krayted, coz 600 max dmg seems real good to me as mine is sliced to only 400 around, 420 i believe. so, is a good tissue all i would need to let a WS craft me one like this?
black-eye, trandoshan dragon
FarStar Galaxy
black-eye
Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:59 pm
#6
thx for ur real wide answer ana 8)..... well its something that i realized.... carbines is badly usefull to take a player out, nice to stack stats, but real bad to deal dmg... but the problem is, as a BH u need to incap and Db ur target.....
even ive to admit i like the carbines in pve really.... sprayshot deals a lot of dmg ( and the stats for sure ) in pve and fireKD is ever usefull too.... sadly in pvp uve to deal with the high resistant armor and a strong buff, ill never understand why the strongest ranged weapon ( rifle ) goes to the weakest pool ( mind ) and also can use the weakness of armor ( heavy AP vs light armor , or stun against 34-40% ), i mean, it makes sense in content, that rifles go for head, but it seems a bit unbalanced...
however, i wanted to switch my template anyway, but wanted to keep carbine BH tree to stop runaways and ill see if i can get a few nice krayt tissues with the increased krayt population 8)
black-eye, Farstar
even ive to admit i like the carbines in pve really.... sprayshot deals a lot of dmg ( and the stats for sure ) in pve and fireKD is ever usefull too.... sadly in pvp uve to deal with the high resistant armor and a strong buff, ill never understand why the strongest ranged weapon ( rifle ) goes to the weakest pool ( mind ) and also can use the weakness of armor ( heavy AP vs light armor , or stun against 34-40% ), i mean, it makes sense in content, that rifles go for head, but it seems a bit unbalanced...
however, i wanted to switch my template anyway, but wanted to keep carbine BH tree to stop runaways and ill see if i can get a few nice krayt tissues with the increased krayt population 8)
black-eye, Farstar
ana-mo-cara
Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:09 pm
#7
Lol I suppose you miss the days when FKD actually worked on jedi
Personally the day they stopped letting that be the case, and the only real option was TKM. I just refused I had enough of the TK stuff, and I wasnt going to be a follower. So I like never hunt jedi seeing as MBH is more a handicap then a bonus. In pvp and hunting jedi.
dsurfman
Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:27 pm
#8
black-eye wrote:
thx for ur replies..... well as i see i alrdy own one of all this expect this lithumantium one but i guess i never saw it anyway.... hmm, so the Laser carbine seems still to be the most powerfull one, ever was wandering about the elite carbine that u get certified as novice, even the laser carbine is much better and has higher AP.
but if i understand right the laser could also be krayted, coz 600 max dmg seems real good to me as mine is sliced to only 400 around, 420 i believe. so, is a good tissue all i would need to let a WS craft me one like this?
black-eye, trandoshan dragon
FarStar Galaxy
You will need 4 tissues. I for the schematic and three for the laser itself. The elite does not have as high of a max as the laser, but its range is much smaller. Mainly the min value is better on an elite. which depending on which side of the debate you believe can be good. Some believe that the majority of our attacks fall within the lower 1/3 of our range so a higher min can mean alot. but it is slower.
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