Weaponsmith Archive

LOOTED stocks are around

+25 damage (max and min) and - a small speed mod

CRAFTED stocks are around

-20 SAC and + a small speed mod

choosing a LOOTED stock does increase min damage and your DPS - however at the effective cost of +20 SAC (some WS can get -25 SAC stocks...) i seriously doubt a LOOTED stock weapon could hit the sac cap and leave the WS enough experiment points to hit the max damage cap

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MasterSheep wrote:

LOOTED stocks are around

+25 damage (max and min) and - a small speed mod

CRAFTED stocks are around

-20 SAC and + a small speed mod

choosing a LOOTED stock does increase min damage and your DPS - however at the effective cost of +20 SAC (some WS can get -25 SAC stocks...) i seriously doubt a LOOTED stock weapon could hit the sac cap and leave the WS enough experiment points to hit the max damage cap

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Lets use an elite carbine for sake of argument. Could I max damage an elite carbine with the following enhancements:

Enhanced Power Cells +184, -0.7 speed, -7 SAC

Form Fitted Weapon Stock +25 min, +35 max, -.7 speed

If so, could you put 7 or 8 points into SAC and get the SAC down close to the cap?

How low could you get the SAC?

We'll leave speed to the slicing.

ok when i crafted a krayt elite carb would come out at 79 sac pre experiment useing a CRAFTED stock (-22 SAC)

sooo..

using looted stock capping damage is no problem at all - probably take 7-8 points or so

but sac hurts with this set up as

79 +22 = 101 base sac pre experiment with a looted stock or 94 once you take into account the -7 on the cells

each point of experiment shaves off 3/4 points of sac

so taking 4 points of sac as a best case scenario

would need to cut sac by 21 to cap sac

that is5/6 points in sac.. under best case - probably need 6/7

SOOOO

doubt its gonna happen.. need 14/15 points to cap both based on my very rough calculations.

Im my opinion the +25 min dam from a looted stock is NOT worth the sac penaulty - the ONLY time it works is if you are only plannign to use ranged shot....

I've been wanting to try making a dmg/spd capped rifle with a crit slice and a sac pup (using pre 23 scope to compensate for the accuracy penalty of the pup).

I don't know how this would work out though. If I cap spd and dmg what would the sac look like? and would a sac pup be enough to lower it down to the usual crafting sac cap of 82?

btw cap for looted enhanced stock are 29min 29max and -.79spd.

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MasterSheep wrote:

if your gonna speed cap rather than damage cap youll lose a whole lot of sac

a 34% sac pup will probably cut it down to 73 sac but it will be an inferior weapon to a damage/sac weapon with a speed powerup

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I keep hearing that due to game mechanics the cap on mod speed is 1.3. If this is true than anything lower would be a waste. With my master bh, master rifleman, carb 0440 I can get a rifle with 2.5 speed down to about 1.5 mod speed. I would easily hit 1.3 if I capped speed. And anything lower than 82 sac would be a bonus. I don't know exactly how much dmg a crit slice would add but I hear its not bad.

The issue that I am trying to address is min damage. Since as you can tell, I am a bounty hunter, and the higher the min damage, the more damage I will do per shot. I am not sure that it will make enough difference, but I wanted to see.

It may be that an unenhanced (krayt, cells, gorax, casing) might provide a good platform for testing this.

Thanks for your input folks.

the basic trade your making here is 30 points in min damage for 10-15 points in action - if that is worth it to you then a WS on your server should be able to make something for you - but dont expect a looted stock weapon to be maxed out opn the damage line (as you would want it to be for the highest min damage) and capped on sac as well