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Thread: customer looking for a few answers before a big purchace

kinlarron
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:18 am
#1
Hello all learned WS. I'm going to have a few pistols made, they are what you would consider "end game" for me. So i need to clarify a few things before i go bothering WS on tempest


1. i need to know the exact caps for a Power 5 pistol. I'm a RPer, and the power 5 has become my iconic gun. I'm trying to put together the best one possible but i have yet to find the caps. I'll need them to decide which tissues I'm going to use.


2. is there a specific post CU scope i should be looking for? Had a bunch of the precision ones, but now an adv. scope is better.


3. Failing the use of the power 5 i had decided to get a dl44xt also, only if it can be astetically modded(barrel, scope). as far as i know it comes pre-modded. can any different parts be put on a XT?


4. once i cap the guns damage through crafting, will slicing increase the max dam?


thanks in advance



Kinn Larron-Tempest-Bestine Professional drunken fish
Gunfighter extraordinair 57 questionable substances abused and counting
I'm a Mon Calamari Pistoleer, you don't get more nerfed than that

"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen." Julio Torres
JakeEyes
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:52 am
#2
I'm also in the market for a new weapon, therefore this post is very interesting to me. My only problem is, I know NOTHING about weapon crafting. If you guys could also give a quick "must know", that would be great. Thanks, and sorry to hijack your thread, Kin



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kinlarron
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:56 am
#3
no worries jake, it might be a good idea for you to read up the inhancer faq whilst we wait



Kinn Larron-Tempest-Bestine Professional drunken fish
Gunfighter extraordinair 57 questionable substances abused and counting
I'm a Mon Calamari Pistoleer, you don't get more nerfed than that

"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen." Julio Torres
Summerflame
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:57 am
#4




kinlarron wrote:

Hello all learned WS. I'm going to have a few pistols made, they are what you would consider "end game" for me. So i need to clarify a few things before i go bothering WS on tempest


1. i need to know the exact caps for a Power 5 pistol. I'm a RPer, and the power 5 has become my iconic gun. I'm trying to put together the best one possible but i have yet to find the caps. I'll need them to decide which tissues I'm going to use.


2. is there a specific post CU scope i should be looking for? Had a bunch of the precision ones, but now an adv. scope is better. Using BH looted scopes will add a nice speed bonus. Accuracy on weapons doesnt seem to work atm, but still awaiting dev cleraification on that one.


3. Failing the use of the power 5 i had decided to get a dl44xt also, only if it can be astetically modded(barrel, scope). as far as i know it comes pre-modded. can any different parts be put on a XT? weapons can no longer be modded. However the DLXT comes with visible scope pr default now. Also be carefull as using looted or the handcrafted scopes/barrels can lead to a very mutated looking gun (the component will show up at strange places on the gun)


4. once i cap the guns damage through crafting, will slicing increase the max dam? No also keep in mind that the slicing caps are lower than crafting caps (you can find the referance to caps in the stickies


thanks in advance




Both of you guys should have a look in the stickies (theres a whole thread dedicated to customers )



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kinlarron
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:02 am
#5
guns CAN"T have custom scopes/barrels anymore? that seems like a silly thing to remove from the game. i just want to get this clear. hand crafted weapons, not factoy prodused ones cannot have custom parts?



Kinn Larron-Tempest-Bestine Professional drunken fish
Gunfighter extraordinair 57 questionable substances abused and counting
I'm a Mon Calamari Pistoleer, you don't get more nerfed than that

"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen." Julio Torres
Summerflame
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:09 am
#6




kinlarron wrote:

guns CAN"T have custom scopes/barrels anymore? that seems like a silly thing to remove from the game. i just want to get this clear. hand crafted weapons, not factoy prodused ones cannot have custom parts?





They can, but before the CU you could customize the weapon look.


The weapons still take the scopes/stocks (other optional parts) and will have the benefit these grants, however the weapon look will not change (besides from the times when you accidently bug them like i described)


Hope that clears it up a bit





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kinlarron
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:13 am
#7
well that just plain stinks! that was half the reasion to get a new gun...


aah well, i really appreciate your fast responces well, looks like im going to roll around with an ugly looking pisola for a while



Kinn Larron-Tempest-Bestine Professional drunken fish
Gunfighter extraordinair 57 questionable substances abused and counting
I'm a Mon Calamari Pistoleer, you don't get more nerfed than that

"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen." Julio Torres
jason67
Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:02 pm
#8




Summerflame wrote:




kinlarron wrote:

guns CAN"T have custom scopes/barrels anymore? that seems like a silly thing to remove from the game. i just want to get this clear. hand crafted weapons, not factoy prodused ones cannot have custom parts?





They can, but before the CU you could customize the weapon look.


The weapons still take the scopes/stocks (other optional parts) and will have the benefit these grants, however the weapon look will not change (besides from the times when you accidently bug them like i described)


Hope that clears it up a bit







While that is basically correct I have noticed that the color/type of barrel that shows up on some weapons will change based on what type of crafted barrel you use. Whether it shows up or not is not optional, it will default to whatever the standard is now for that weapon, but the appearance still seems to change(for barrels at least) based on what type of barrel is used.


When crafting the barrels this is purely a cosmetic piece at the end just before you make the schematic. It does not impact the stats at all and most WS's use one type of barrel not bothering with the others, but there are options available. Also many of the barrels look alike so if your not picking one that's a different color(black vs white)or drasticlaly different shape you probably won't notice it.


So just to clarify what I have stated. You CAN NOT control IF a scope or barrel appears on a weapon, but... if one is supposed to appear you can alter which style appears.






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kinlarron
Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:20 pm
#9

Thanks Jason, wow this is getting complicated. So let me see if i have this strait. You CAN add a cosmetic barrel or scope to a weapon who's actual model is supposed to have one in the first place. So, for example, you could add a type 6(the ovaluar)barrel, and an ee3(boba fett)scope to, lets say, a dl44xt during the crafting process, and they will replace the standard silver ones?


If i read you correctly then any gun that pops out with a barrel or scope can in fact be customized. Buta gun(like the power5) that does not pop out with them will ever show a cosmetic barrel?


id assume that its not an exact or repeatable thing post cu though. i even have a few modded pre cu guns with multiple barrels/scopes. But if it can be repeated, this may solve my problem


thanks again for all the exelent responces.



Kinn Larron-Tempest-Bestine Professional drunken fish
Gunfighter extraordinair 57 questionable substances abused and counting
I'm a Mon Calamari Pistoleer, you don't get more nerfed than that

"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen." Julio Torres
kinlarron
Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:21 pm
#10
also, i still havent found the precise caps for the Power 5.



Kinn Larron-Tempest-Bestine Professional drunken fish
Gunfighter extraordinair 57 questionable substances abused and counting
I'm a Mon Calamari Pistoleer, you don't get more nerfed than that

"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen." Julio Torres
JakeEyes
Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:33 am
#11
Thanks for the response, Summerflame (and congrats on the "promotion"). I'll have take a look at those stickies. Thanks Kin for letting me join in and GL with that pistol!

Message Edited by JakeEyes on 09-28-2005 03:39 PM



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kinlarron
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:31 pm
#12
Have a small update for anyone interested.


Power 5 min-max stats that I've found. If its possible, could someone lend a hand in calculating max damage from this. (very important for my tissue selection)


damage 250-551/ ???

spd 1.87/ 1.73

sac 118/ 65

wound 14.95/ ???

range 35m


These were buried in the stickied weapon cap thread.


Now, this is just a guess, but i have quite a few pre cu converted power 5's. For the most part their max sliced damage was in the 630's. is it safe to assume his as a good post cu max dam baseline? i ask because all my pre cu de-10's are at or near the crafted caps now.


This is really important for me, mostly because i spent a small fortune on post cu uuber tissues for these guns, and wasting a pair of192 tissues on a gun who's damage range is only +90 or so seems a little silly to me.



Kinn Larron-Tempest-Bestine Professional drunken fish
Gunfighter extraordinair 57 questionable substances abused and counting
I'm a Mon Calamari Pistoleer, you don't get more nerfed than that

"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen." Julio Torres
Summerflame
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:06 am
#13




kinlarron wrote:

Have a small update for anyone interested.


Power 5 min-max stats that I've found. If its possible, could someone lend a hand in calculating max damage from this. (very important for my tissue selection)


damage 250-551/ ???

spd 1.87/ 1.73

sac 118/ 65

wound 14.95/ ???

range 35m


These were buried in the stickied weapon cap thread.


Now, this is just a guess, but i have quite a few pre cu converted power 5's. For the most part their max sliced damage was in the 630's. is it safe to assume his as a good post cu max dam baseline? i ask because all my pre cu de-10's are at or near the crafted caps now.

some weapons converted over craftin cap (especially true if they were pupped during the conversion)


This is really important for me, mostly because i spent a small fortune on post cu uuber tissues for these guns, and wasting a pair of192 tissues on a gun who's damage range is only +90 or so seems a little silly to me.

As the Power5 is a CL40 Weapon it wont be able to compete with the CL 53 (as their damage cap is way higher.) Using 192 max dam tissues would be a waste of awesome tissues as the weapon would cap before reaching the full potential of the tissues. I do not know the damage cap of the power5 myself, but I would guess it could be capped with some 130 tissues (or in that area)








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