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Thread: im pisssssssed!!!!

Ainya_ShaAni
Fri May 13, 2005 9:18 pm
#1

i spent 15 mil in resources grinded master weaponsmith got the skill tapes spent some more money, wasted 3 130+ kyrat tissue into a pistol and got a base dps of 276 !!!!!!!!! all these parts where all made after the cu is that the problem are my resource not good enoughf, did i fail as a weaponsmith lol.
Earland
Fri May 13, 2005 9:27 pm
#2

I don't know the whole circumstance, but I used 120's in a High Capacity Scatter and hit 342.44 EBDPS. It might be a bug, certain resources not being as good because of the new gating... I really don't know, but if it doesn't happen again contact a CSR.



Nri Talani
Ainya_ShaAni
Fri May 13, 2005 10:51 pm
#3

i was running some experements and this is what i came up with



say the scheme required this


con - 66% .66 x 1000= 660


sr- 33% that means .33 x 1000= 330 660+330= 990


the resource is 1000sr


and 1000 con



so i know that this is the highest possible for that component thats before 10 or 12 point even matters correct, due to that fact experementing hasnt happened yet. so what i want to know is how close do i have to come to that 990 which we already stated as a perfect component to make a good weapon. so it has dawned on me that it is most likly my resources i caught them differing from 100 points off the 990 but even thought the resource bar was filling up green didnt mean the % was working out newb ws crafting =) i feel better that i realized im an idiot and now i have the biggest resource list ever imagenable lol


CorenLanra
Sat May 14, 2005 1:34 am
#4



Ainya_ShaAni wrote:
i spent 15 mil in resources grinded master weaponsmith got the skill tapes spent some more money, wasted 3 130+ kyrat tissue into a pistol and got a base dps of 276 !!!!!!!!! all these parts where all made after the cu is that the problem are my resource not good enoughf, did i fail as a weaponsmith lol.





What pistol?
Where did you experiment on the ABPH
Where did you experiment on the final build?


Ideally for DPS experiment on speed for subcomponents, then damage for final build. I can't see any way you could make a krayt gun with under 300 dps with 130 tissues unless it was certed below 54.



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Hurlobacca
Sat May 14, 2005 4:28 am
#5

Crafting results are dependent on the resources as you now know. When you look at the best crafted weapons on your server you can safely assume that some of the best resources available were used to make them. If you were mining your own resources it would probably take 3 months of diligent mining to have everything you need to make all weapons. By six months you'll have upgraded most of your resources and you should be able to be fairly competitive and by a year your weapons will probably be among the best, IF you monitored all the new spawns and mined what you needed. Of course if you can fill in some gaps by purchasing some resources that will help accelerate the process.


Develop a relationship with SWGCraft.com to monitor current spawns and learn to use the "Find Resources" function to evaluate past vs. current spawns. Learn which resources have gated stats so you don't wait around for a plumbum or polonium with 990 condition. Read the FAQ sticky and print out some of the lists of what resources are used on what weapons. Consider limiting your crafting initially to weapons you can make competitely if your aim to be commercially successful. Melee weapons are good for that since the resources are much easier to get in quality than for Ranged weapons. If you are master artisan consider selling powerups to keep some credits flowing while you gear up, though with changes to them you'l want good resources.


Find out who the good smiths are on your server and get to know how your weapons compare so you'll know when you've made something good. In the case of the Scatter you could have just made an unenhanced Scatter then compared it to other smith's Scatters to see how it compared, then you would have known that you weren't quite ready to use good tissues yet.



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Earland
Sat May 14, 2005 12:17 pm
#6


I am glad you figured it out, and I wish you the best of luck 8). I am not omniscient, but if I can help in any way let me know.



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Ainya_ShaAni
Sat May 14, 2005 8:23 pm
#7


thx for the help guys!


update on my findings, it gets better the highest spawn ever note (ever)for rhodium steel and about 7 other resources needed for a t21 on valcyn is about 300con and 700oq lol <------------------------ what the hell am i supposed to do with that, why did i pick valcyn to be a weaponsmith.


Message Edited by Ainya_ShaAni on 05-14-2005 08:24 PM

Hurlobacca
Sun May 15, 2005 12:09 pm
#8






Ainya_ShaAni wrote:


thx for the help guys!


update on my findings, it gets better the highest spawn ever note (ever)for rhodium steel and about 7 other resources needed for a t21 on valcyn is about 300con and 700oq lol <------------------------ what the hell am i supposed to do with that, why did i pick valcyn to be a weaponsmith.



Message Edited by Ainya_ShaAni on 05-14-200508:24 PM






What you're seeing there are gated resources where some stats have limits less than 1000, for example Polonium Iron's conductivity is capped at 150. Once you've figured out the stat range for the pertinent stats, just use the best one within that range. It doesn't really matter which server you are on as the stat ranges on gated resources are the same but actual spawns do vary from server to server.



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Ainya_ShaAni
Mon May 16, 2005 12:23 am
#9

so, every weapon is the same in a basic sence in the starting stage so a 12point with good resources is the same as 10 point, but as soon as i make it to the experement stage thats when it all changes huh.... i got yea yea okey thxs
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