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Thread: What is the Best Crafted Stock, what do you get, and what do you put extra poitns into?
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Stemman-Intrepid
Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:46 pm
#1
Ok, since finally on intrepid the friggin T21 reocurces came along, i was like yay, time to make a ton of them, now i need to make some stocks, What kinda stats do you get on your Best stocks and what do you put additional points into... and if you could please break down what Exp percentages you got in crafting (Ie. 76% damage, 13% range, 23% conditon, whatever) thanks, im just trying to make myself some of the really good ones, and i need to know what is good 
-Stemman
Yastar
Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:04 pm
#2
Wondered about advanced stocks myself...best i have been able to do so far is 39/39 max/min damage and i blame that on the lousy wood on corellia.
Stemman-Intrepid
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:02 pm
#3
beats the hell outta my 29/29's that im making now... i blame it on my crappy link steel alum...
-Stemman
Stemman-Intrepid
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:40 pm
#5
Alright, so im looking at best getting around 37/37 +.3 ish... but still, what do you put your extra points into? range, or efficiency? Thanks for all the info fellow WSs
-Stemman
Vaelorn
Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:42 am
#6
Well, since you cannot put any kind of scope on a T-21 rifle, and they typically have extremely poor range modifiers, you may want to spend those extra points on range for your T-21 stocks. On the other hand, the mind cost on a T-21 is already unholy, and adding a stock will make it even more evil (typically, stocked T-21 rifleshave a mind cost over 100!), so you may want to work on that, though a few points really won't matter since it's already so high. With Vasarian Brandy being found so commonly, and experimented to allow 2 uses simultaneously for double the buff, the mind costs on rifles typically aren't an issue for most people these days.
All in all, I would say to raise the damage as high as you can with the resources you have available, and then spend the rest of your experimentation points on the range modifier.
WerrtZer
Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:14 am
#7
Last schem I threw together I got the dmg to 40/40 (forget speed but then what rifleman cares? /rolleyes) using 11 points and I threw my last point into HAM at the same time as I threw the last poiunt into dmg. I downed a bespin port, got an amzing and the HAM dropped from 29/29/29 to 24/24/24 .
.I have been unable to repeat this schematic. The resources I used were pretty close to caps (830 alumin, 630 wood).
One tip for the guy with the 29/29: make sure and do it the proper way (adv stock is STILL bugged) ie. put 6 full points into dmg first attempt, then the rest of the points in in either groups of 1 or 2 till you max them.
Stemman-Intrepid
Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:01 pm
#8
Hehe... turns out i have 839 SR link steel aluminum sitting in my inventory(unfortunately only 2400 or so units... approxmately 300 stocks) plus this 611 SR current corellian wood... i plan on making really nice ones hehe ... and if i got 300 stocks i would be in heaven, cuz ill tell you, i only plan on making 50 T-21s or so in my career... they take too make ABPHs!! if i made 300 of them... thats 3000 ABPHs! Ee Gads, thats a lot, heh
... and if i got 300 stocks i would be in heaven, cuz ill tell you, i only plan on making 50 T-21s or so in my career... they take too make ABPHs!! if i made 300 of them... thats 3000 ABPHs! Ee Gads, thats a lot, heh-Stemman
Stemman-Intrepid
Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:29 am
#9
Well, i had crappy 200 somthing wood it turns out... i just put some harvs on the last day or two of this 611 SR wood... so that should help it out a lot... now... to that last comment... you are saying... **makes stock** **goes into experiment stage** now do i put 6 full exp points into damage on my first exp attempt? what exactly is this bug? thanks
-Stemman
WerrtZer
Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:53 am
#10
Stemman-Intrepid wrote:
Well, i had crappy 200 somthing wood it turns out... i just put some harvs on the last day or two of this 611 SR wood... so that should help it out a lot... now... to that last comment... you are saying... **makes stock** **goes into experiment stage** now do i put 6 full exp points into damage on my first exp attempt? what exactly is this bug? thanks
-Stemman
Well the bug is tough to describe (and apparently even tougher to fix since it's been pointed out to the devs several times) but basically if you experiment on it the "normal" way you do on any other weapon/component (ie 2-3 boxes or points at a time) you can never max out the damage bar even with all great succeses and 12 points.
So instead of doing it the "normal" way put your first 6 points into the first 6 boxes on the damage bar. If you get a great or amazing success all of those 6 boxes light up and you can then experiemnt the rest 1-2 points at a time (and hope for no goods or moderates). If you do NOT get a great or amazing for those first 6 points just hitEsc to cancel the crafting session and try again till you do: some people can hit it on their first try and then I've heard folk on here say it took them ages...
Good luck with the T21s. Best way I've found to do them is just make your 1K of ABPHs and make 99 rifles and if they're above 400 charge enough so that they don't sell out too fast...
SexyJabbaTheHutt
Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:33 am
#11
I've tried different wood for the Adv Stocks, a far as I can see, any type of wood used using the 6 pts, then 1 pt till capped will result in 40/40 stocks, the only difference is the speed will be higher on lower sr wood. Might be just me, dunno, but I've done it with 3 types of wood so far so 
Rangerw
Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:53 am
#12
I'm having probs getting the speed down on mine even using 689 SR Corellian Deciduous Wood( Kaka) (caps at 700) and 818 SRAlum (830 cap).
I have 2 schems I've saved so for (both from same materials):
40/40 .402
37/39 .332
Gonna work on a better one today trying both 5 pts and 6 pts on first experimentation
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Edit:
Guess becoming an 11pt smith helped. I easily made 2 schems that turned out 40/40 .282.
I used 5 points on the 1st experiment. I had to get at least4 greats and 1 amazing in that combine, then experimented the other 6 pts one point at a time and they had to be all greats.
My shop isn't in a Research City, so I took my droid up to a reasearch city and that helped with getting the amazings. I dropped 25K into the city treasury for the use of the city.
Message Edited by Rangerw on 08-08-2004 08:56 AM
Message Edited by Rangerw on 08-08-2004 10:04 AM
AspiringBountyHunter
Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:46 am
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40/40 and .5
Used trash wood and some pretty good link-steel.
I've also found that its better to dump all the points you can into the first experiment roll, as the percentages go down as you experiment it further up the scale. With the same resources, I was only getting mid 30s if I experimented one or two points at a time.
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