Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Critical success Bug or feature? Exploit?
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Bermag
Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:15 am
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I am talking about when you get a better than normal stats on the initial assembly.
Is this a bug or an intended feature? If it is not intended, is it considered an exploit? I personally don't think it is an exploit since you can not reproduce it and see it more like a random event.
What does SOE say about this? If it happens, should we just be happy or are we making an illegal weapon? (Everyone who would destroy a weapon/schem crafted this way raise your hands! Uhh, don't see any hands raised... lol)
Never happened to me, at least not anything that good I have noticed. Would be nice to get when you make a schem lol
JediNg
Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:26 pm
#3
Its a feature. i pestered CSRs about it because i thought i sploited somehow. they toldme all 4 (yes 4) times that it is not an exploit or bug 
And hi Jolene 
DaBarius
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:29 pm
#4
It doesnt seem like a exploitbecause if youget a critical success you cannot reproduceit through a schem. Which means the Devs put in the code where you can only get a prototype for it.
Seems legal to me 
Tautology
Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:36 am
#5
Its a feature and you can make a schematic (made one myself of exceptional FGW5s)
papajedi
Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:52 am
#6
Here's my two cents:
Seems to me that if someone went to the trouble to include in the code (orenter into a database) the words:
CRITICAL SUCCESS!!
Thengetting a critical success while craftingcan hardly be called a bug or exploit.
If a condition exists that allowscritical successes to occur more (or less) often, or outside of the conditions,that the programmers intended them to occur, that is a bug.
Now, if you discover a way tomake this bugoccur(such as making this occur at will through a sequence of actions you take), and you repeatedly cause this bug tooccur, then THAT is an exploit (of a bug).
Willbaby
Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:57 am
#7
papajedi wrote:Here's my two cents:Seems to me that if someone went to the trouble to include in the code (or enter into a database) the words:CRITICAL SUCCESS!!Then getting a critical success while crafting can hardly be called a bug or exploit.If a condition exists that allows critical successes to occur more (or less) often, or outside of the conditions, that the programmers intended them to occur, that is a bug.Now, if you discover a way to make this bug occur (such as making this occur at will through a sequence of actions you take), and you repeatedly cause this bug to occur, then THAT is an exploit (of a bug).
ive yet to see any screenshots with the term critical succses , in my eyes this is exactly the same bug that gives u less % on assembly , just at the other end of the scale , to my knowledge the term critical succses is just a name given to this bug , their is no text in swg with this term that i have seen ,.
ive stumbled upon both of these bugs several times , one gives u crappy assembly results , 1 gives above normal .
jedi464
Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:53 pm
#8
So could we get some screenshots of a weapon/component with a critical success?
Lurax
Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:49 pm
#9
Willbaby wrote:
papajedi wrote:
Here's my two cents:
Seems to me that if someone went to the trouble to include in the code (or enter into a database) the words:
CRITICAL SUCCESS!!
Then getting a critical success while crafting can hardly be called a bug or exploit.
If a condition exists that allows critical successes to occur more (or less) often, or outside of the conditions, that the programmers intended them to occur, that is a bug.
Now, if you discover a way to make this bug occur (such as making this occur at will through a sequence of actions you take), and you repeatedly cause this bug to occur, then THAT is an exploit (of a bug).
ive yet to see any screenshots with the term critical succses , in my eyes this is exactly the same bug that gives u less % on assembly , just at the other end of the scale , to my knowledge the term critical succses is just a name given to this bug , their is no text in swg with this term that i have seen ,.
ive stumbled upon both of these bugs several times , one gives u crappy assembly results , 1 gives above normal .
there isn't a "bug" that gives you less % on assembly...it's called "moderate" assembly and is also a feature working as intended. It does in fact say "the assembly was a critical success" or something to that effect when this occurs.
It is working as intended, and ridiculously rare. Anyone shouting exploit is just jealous that they didn't get one
Ataho
Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:35 am
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Lurax wrote:
Willbaby wrote:
papajedi wrote:Here's my two cents:Seems to me that if someone went to the trouble to include in the code (or enter into a database) the words:CRITICAL SUCCESS!!Then getting a critical success while crafting can hardly be called a bug or exploit.If a condition exists that allows critical successes to occur more (or less) often, or outside of the conditions, that the programmers intended them to occur, that is a bug.Now, if you discover a way to make this bug occur (such as making this occur at will through a sequence of actions you take), and you repeatedly cause this bug to occur, then THAT is an exploit (of a bug).
ive yet to see any screenshots with the term critical succses , in my eyes this is exactly the same bug that gives u less % on assembly , just at the other end of the scale , to my knowledge the term critical succses is just a name given to this bug , their is no text in swg with this term that i have seen ,.
ive stumbled upon both of these bugs several times , one gives u crappy assembly results , 1 gives above normal .there isn't a "bug" that gives you less % on assembly...it's called "moderate" assembly and is also a feature working as intended. It does in fact say "the assembly was a critical success" or something to that effect when this occurs.
It is working as intended, and ridiculously rare. Anyone shouting exploit is just jealous that they didn't get one
I have gotten a great succes where my assembly was 3% less than expceted....and it was actually with the Village lightsbaer crafting toolkit:-)
Message Edited by Ataho on 04-07-2005 01:36 PM
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