Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: New to WS How Do I Become a 12pt WS?

Sneev
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:16 am
#1

I did crafting as a MDE way back when the game came out. I came back after the CU and respecced like mad trying various professions out. I didn't respec to WS to give it a shot, and after thinking about it I decided that would be the most interesting crafting profession to try, so I am now working my way to MWS by grinding and I am almost there.


I keep hearing the terms "12pt crafter" bandied about, and I can see that the extra experimentation will be essential in crafting top level weapons. My question is, howdo I become a "12pt WS"?


I gather the WS craftingbandolier that adds +5 to my experimentation is one item. I have that, although I am unsure what to put in any sockets on it. Any help and a clear explanation would be appreciated. I expect to have to work my way to whatever august status this provides, and I expect to have to do a lot of experimentation to learn the ins and outs of the profession, but I want to do it right the first time if I can. I have some money to hand (bout 5 million once I am done skilling up) if that is relevant.


Thanks in advance for any sensible response



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Sneev
Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:36 pm
#2


So is this a suitable summary then:


* I need 6 more items of clothing that I can put these skilltapes into, andI need as much as 20million credits to buy the tapes, depending on server economy.


* I shouldn't put a tape into the WS Toolbelt that I have to avoid negating the +3 it already has, leaving 6 more clothing items I can put a tape into.


* I should only put 1 tape per item of clothing because no more than 1 is ever usable. Thus I need to have +3 skilltapes period, and put them one per each piece of clothing.


* During this process I will also presumably gain pluses for other skills etc, and can use the other slots in the clothing for other CAs and benefits.


What are the items of clothing? Just Pants, Shirt, Boots, Hat, Jacket , Gloves? Are they specific items, specific drops, and has anyone seen a hat (not for an Ithorian) that doesn't make you look like a complete idiot? The only ones I know of are the Sunshade (coolie hat) and the Warm Hat (welcome to the short bus), or do I need to look at getting a Swoop Bike helmet to wear while crafting?


I can see there is probably not the remotest chance I will ever finish this, since I can't conceive of making 20 million profit from sales of anything, but perhaps its possible. Thank you for the information, on to do more research...




Jhonto - Elder: Architect, Artisan, Chef, Droid Engineer, Merchant, Tailor, Entertainer, Image Designer, Politician, Bounty Hunter, Marksman, TKM, Creature Handler, Ranger, Scout, Doctor, Dancer and Musician
High Plains, Tatooine (3356, 7212), Tarquinas

Jindi Jaw'aqti - Half Bothan/Half Jawa Spy. Regimental Sargeant Major, 15th Stormtrooper Regiment, Ft Palpatine, Lok.
EdOWar
Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:58 pm
#3






Sneev wrote:


So is this a suitable summary then:


* I need 6 more items of clothing that I can put these skilltapes into, andI need as much as 20million credits to buy the tapes, depending on server economy.


* I shouldn't put a tape into the WS Toolbelt that I have to avoid negating the +3 it already has, leaving 6 more clothing items I can put a tape into.


* I should only put 1 tape per item of clothing because no more than 1 is ever usable. Thus I need to have +3 skilltapes period, and put them one per each piece of clothing.


* During this process I will also presumably gain pluses for other skills etc, and can use the other slots in the clothing for other CAs and benefits.


What are the items of clothing? Just Pants, Shirt, Boots, Hat, Jacket , Gloves? Are they specific items, specific drops, and has anyone seen a hat (not for an Ithorian) that doesn't make you look like a complete idiot? The only ones I know of are the Sunshade (coolie hat) and the Warm Hat (welcome to the short bus), or do I need to look at getting a Swoop Bike helmet to wear while crafting?


I can see there is probably not the remotest chance I will ever finish this, since I can't conceive of making 20 million profit from sales of anything, but perhaps its possible. Thank you for the information, on to do more research...






Yes, that about sums it up. You can also have belts that take CAs, so that's another clothing item (remember though that different races have different clothing restrictions). Personally I would forego the WS toolkit. It's cheap and easily available, but having to remove your backpack everytime you craft gets to be a pain (I know because I did it for months).


And yes, crafting outfits have a tendency to look a little silly, unless you're really picky and careful about how you put yours together. But then again, I don't go out in public with my crafting suit anyways, so it doesn't bother me that much.


As for getting the money, it is difficult for a new WS to start out. However, there are plenty of ways to make money (such as selling excess resources, for example). Or if you are a master pilot, you can do duty missions. High tier ones pay upwards of 500K or more (counting payouts, credit chips and selling loots) for just an hour or two of "work". It would get kind of tedious, but you could have enough money for your suit in a week or so doing it through duty missions.


Good luck on your WS journey.


Slim Vargo, Corbantis


Sypo
Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:06 pm
#4




And unless you have a fricken TON of money you'll never get the tapes needed, cause certain people on the server buy them all up at Rediculous prices, and guess what, Most of those peeps arent even Weaponsmiths, they just like to collect these CA's and put them on there wall or something.

Message Edited by Sypo on 06-27-2005 05:06 PM



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EdOWar
Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:14 pm
#5






Sypo wrote:




And unless you have a fricken TON of money you'll never get the tapes needed, cause certain people on the server buy them all up at Rediculous prices, and guess what, Most of those peeps arent even Weaponsmiths, they just like to collect these CA's and put them on there wall or something.

Message Edited by Sypo on 06-27-200505:06 PM






Uh, and you know this how?


Slim Vargo, Corbantis
EdOWar
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:04 am
#6

You'll need +20 points worth of Weapon Experimentation skilltapes. As there are only 7 body locations, they'll need to average out to about +3 per tape. They generally run for about 1 million a point, though server economies differ so ymmv. Be careful to nottwoWeapon Experimentationtapes in the same piece of clothing, as one of them will get cancelled out. And be careful that you don't buy Weapon Systems Experimentation tapes, those are for Shipwrights. I think this covers it all.


Slim Vargo, Corbantis


Irxosskisx
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:17 am
#7

And unless they changed it recently the WS Tool kit only gives +3 exp... +5 assembly tho....



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AldaronTavish
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:46 am
#8

Just to make clear don't put WS exp tapes in the WS toolbelt. If it's a +3 or lower tape you've wasted it, it's it's +4 or higher you overwrite the +3 in the belt.



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Weeeebang
Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:38 am
#9

I've just started Weapon Smith on the Ahazi Server.


This is a rough guide to outlay. (I have spent alot due to the fact i am crafting to orders rather then mass crafting items)


11 point suit i found on vendor - 5 million credits


12 point suit i brought after finding 11point (doh) - 8 million credits


Mixed them together giving me


+23 Exp - +25 Assy - +20 repair (I'm happy with this for 13 million) I look at it as a investment that i can sell on rather then a expense)


Resources.


Well. trying to find some of the resources was a nightmare (I am so pleased vendor search is here) Some of the highest quality resources i managed to find quite easy.. about 2-5cpu the rare ones cost alot more and i mean alot. Rodium Steel if i spelt that right was the hardest i could find on server and when i did find some the quality was poor.. I used a 30k deed to get this and pleased i did!


30k resource deed 3 Milllion


Resources8 million


+15 tool and +49.96 station 300k


And there you have it.. I have spent 24.3 million on becoming a weapon smith.


I have brought Krayt Tissue etc so far to make 2 Guns that sold for4 million. the tissues cost me 1 million.


So you can make your money back.. I made 3 million profit on two guns with enough resources to make thousands





Weeeeebang.
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Ecnirp
Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:15 am
#10






Weeeebang wrote:

I've just started Weapon Smith on the Ahazi Server.


This is a rough guide to outlay. (I have spent alot due to the fact i am crafting to orders rather then mass crafting items)


11 point suit i found on vendor - 5 million credits


12 point suit i brought after finding 11point (doh) - 8 million credits


Mixed them together giving me


+23 Exp - +25 Assy - +20 repair (I'm happy with this for 13 million) I look at it as a investment that i can sell on rather then a expense)


Resources.


Well. trying to find some of the resources was a nightmare (I am so pleased vendor search is here) Some of the highest quality resources i managed to find quite easy.. about 2-5cpu the rare ones cost alot more and i mean alot. Rodium Steel if i spelt that right was the hardest i could find on server and when i did find some the quality was poor.. I used a 30k deed to get this and pleased i did!


30k resource deed 3 Milllion


Resources8 million


+15 tool and +49.96 station 300k


And there you have it.. I have spent 24.3 million on becoming a weapon smith.


I have brought Krayt Tissue etc so far to make 2 Guns that sold for4 million. the tissues cost me 1 million.


So you can make your money back.. I made 3 million profit on two guns with enough resources to make thousands






I want a 49.96 station

mephed
Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:08 pm
#11

Christ you did good. I'm on Ahazi too do you have any good spots where there might be any mod clothing left?

I'm just starting out respec weaponsmith...I was going to buy a second box game and grind it out but I tried that once on an alt on another server (bloodfin) got 2221 and it was too much for me (kudos to anyone who did the WS grind don't know how the others are but I couldn't finish). It was easier to master carbineer, bounty hunter, pikeman, doctor, teras kasi, combat medic and pistoleer and did those in less grind time than the weaponsmith altogether =p For grinding I used metal staves and barrels, mostly staves though...a couple professional hologrinders told me at the time, and it was bad. I didn't think it would be bad after artisan, but it was..I didn't buy a game and just thought about it forever. Finally I thought about it and a couple of my RL friends quit playing, so I just asked one for his acct, respecced weaponsmith, and that's all she wrote. Blew like 6 mil on resources and a few other things like form fitted custom stocks and all that fun stuff..since I've been hunting gorax and krayt nonstop on my BH/Combat medic (solo mind you) even though the krayt's haven't been yielding alot the gorax drops haven't been bad to me...going to blow a couple more mil at least on harvesters and I need to find factories horribly can't find any on Ahazi on vender searches. Found my harvester guy...architects just aren't touching equipment factories anymore gonna have to custom order some on the auction forums here and we all know how much that will cost.

As for experimentation I have like +11 assembly and a mightly +4 in experimentation, so needless to say I'm not using any of those form fitted custom stocks or gorax shards yet (can't anyway without factories heh) because a better WS will be able to make better with em and that'll defeat the purpose (arming my lootwhore/PvP toon with artisan food and personal weapons saving me millions literally, but it' going to cost to get there heh. Even artisan tapes are pricy. I noticed that 2/3 of the food/drink i use in PvP and PvE is artisan and not chef made (blob candy/bofa treat/ruby bliel/crispic/def food from chef/+HP and regen chef food.

Needless to say if you can email Cyress on Ahazi a WP where I can find good experimentation/assembly SEA/clothes I'll pay a finders fee surely.

Cyress
Ahazi
Starting force sensative crafter



Cyress
Master Weaponsmith/Master Artisan
Stocking new location outside Nyms at 1300 5923
Hater of driving to the village at clvl 1
anja
Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:27 pm
#12

You might be looking at the wrong category for the factories. They are found under Deed/Installation Deed. There's a whole page of them available on Ahazi atm, most starting at 40K, a few at 25K even .

You can also look for weapon exp CAs on the galaxy vendor search, as well. They're under Misc/Clothing Attachment/Clothing Attachment. It's sort of pain, bcz you have to look at the details of each item, but you never know, you may find a bargain.

I have a +7 dark sash on my vendor if you're looking for a stopgap solution. It's a bando, though, so you can't equip it at the same time as a backpack or a weaponsmith's toolset, just so you know.





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mephed
Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:54 pm
#13

Going to definately check this out =)



Cyress
Master Weaponsmith/Master Artisan
Stocking new location outside Nyms at 1300 5923
Hater of driving to the village at clvl 1
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