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Thread: other components needed?

jahlad
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:32 am
#1

hi, im looking to get a ws to craft me a nice carbine (a mk2 e11) i have some nice 130 -0.37tissues ready.....is there anything else that will help?

i plan on asking the ws to push the sac cost down then damage then speed. i figure sac 75 and the damage over 1010 will slice nicely



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Feistin
Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:08 am
#2

No...if the ws s a good one, he will ahve all ressources available. Just look for a 12 pts WS and pre cu components if you want to attain those stats..



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JBK
Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:59 am
#3






jahlad wrote:

hi, im looking to get a ws to craft me a nice carbine (a mk2 e11) i have some nice 130 -0.37tissues ready.....is there anything else that will help?

i plan on asking the ws to push the sac cost down then damage then speed. i figure sac 75 and the damage over 1010 will slice nicely





Ask him to make it with a nice scope to reduce the sac cost and use his best materials.



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Summerflame
Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:06 pm
#4






DawinGamond wrote:





JBK wrote:





jahlad wrote:

hi, im looking to get a ws to craft me a nice carbine (a mk2 e11) i have some nice 130 -0.37tissues ready.....is there anything else that will help?

i plan on asking the ws to push the sac cost down then damage then speed. i figure sac 75 and the damage over 1010 will slice nicely





Ask him to make it with a nice scope to reduce the sac cost and use his best materials.






Lol, use his best materials, like he's gonna hoard the GOOD stuff unless you ask for it?


And a scope?That adds accuracy bonus. It's the stock that lowers SAC.


Did I detect a hint of sarcasm?


Also hitting 75, even with pre-cu stocks is gonna be kinda hard as I recall. I managed to get one down to 80 with some pre-cu stocks.







Its more than possible to hit 75 with both pre and post cu stocks, You just have to know how to experiment all the components right



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DawinGamond
Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:29 pm
#5

k, spill.



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Summerflame
Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:36 pm
#6






DawinGamond wrote:
k, spill.





Well what I do is experimenting all components to lowest possible sac, even the Stocks (thou I might relocate 2 points to speed as Im hitting sac cap with 2 points left after making dam). The slight speed addition granted by the stocks isnt really important when you go for all sac wepaons.



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CorenLanra
Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:15 pm
#7



Summerflame wrote:


DawinGamond wrote:
k, spill.



Well what I do is experimenting all components to lowest possible sac, even the Stocks (thou I might relocate 2 points to speed as Im hitting sac cap with 2 points left after making dam). The slight speed addition granted by the stocks isnt really important when you go for all sac wepaons.





Actually it is easier to get SAC down with post-CU stocks, you can hit -23 or -24 depending on your successes. The ones I am using now are about +1.0 speed and -23 SAC, all pre-cu stocks are +0.0 speed -20 SAC. I think .1 speed is a decent loss for 2-3 SAC.



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Summerflame
Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:30 pm
#8






CorenLanra wrote:





Summerflame wrote:





DawinGamond wrote:
k, spill.





Well what I do is experimenting all components to lowest possible sac, even the Stocks (thou I might relocate 2 points to speed as Im hitting sac cap with 2 points left after making dam). The slight speed addition granted by the stocks isnt really important when you go for all sac wepaons.







Actually it is easier to get SAC down with post-CU stocks, you can hit -23 or -24 depending on your successes. The ones I am using now are about +1.0 speed and -23 SAC, all pre-cu stocks are +0.0 speed -20 SAC. I think .1 speed is a decent loss for 2-3 SAC.




Indeed



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DawinGamond
Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:51 am
#9






JBK wrote:





jahlad wrote:

hi, im looking to get a ws to craft me a nice carbine (a mk2 e11) i have some nice 130 -0.37tissues ready.....is there anything else that will help?

i plan on asking the ws to push the sac cost down then damage then speed. i figure sac 75 and the damage over 1010 will slice nicely





Ask him to make it with a nice scope to reduce the sac cost and use his best materials.






Lol, use his best materials, like he's gonna hoard the GOOD stuff unless you ask for it?


And a scope?That adds accuracy bonus. It's the stock that lowers SAC.


Did I detect a hint of sarcasm?


Also hitting 75, even with pre-cu stocks is gonna be kinda hard as I recall. I managed to get one down to 80 with some pre-cu stocks.





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DawinGamond
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:14 am
#10






Summerflame wrote:





CorenLanra wrote:





Summerflame wrote:





DawinGamond wrote:
k, spill.





Well what I do is experimenting all components to lowest possible sac, even the Stocks (thou I might relocate 2 points to speed as Im hitting sac cap with 2 points left after making dam). The slight speed addition granted by the stocks isnt really important when you go for all sac wepaons.







Actually it is easier to get SAC down with post-CU stocks, you can hit -23 or -24 depending on your successes. The ones I am using now are about +1.0 speed and -23 SAC, all pre-cu stocks are +0.0 speed -20 SAC. I think .1 speed is a decent loss for 2-3 SAC.




Indeed






Cool, thanks guys. I'm just now getting into the SAC-lowered business and honestly haven't really done a whole lot yet. I finally made my first factory run of low SAC ABPH's, so I'll make up a run of low SAC stocks and barrels.


One other question for you WS's. How do you differentiate on your vendors DPS vs SAC weapons? In other words, do you name your weapons differently, set up separate vendors, etc?





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SgtSixpack
Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:23 am
#11






DawinGamond wrote:





Summerflame wrote:





CorenLanra wrote:





Summerflame wrote:





DawinGamond wrote:














Actually it is easier to get SAC down with post-CU stocks, you can hit -23 or -24 depending on your successes. The ones I am using now are about +1.0 speed and -23 SAC, all pre-cu stocks are +0.0 speed -20 SAC. I think .1 speed is a decent loss for 2-3 SAC.










Are u saying that a +1 second speed increase in the stockconverts to 0.1 speed increase when crafting the final weapon? If so I can make my t21s with alot better sac.



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jahlad
Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:15 pm
#12

it turned out pritty well, 74 sac and 989 max damage.....tho a moderate success in the final experimentation didnt help


we then had a play with some 110 tissues and matched it, then made another with 80 sac and higher damage, then using handlers that were made for sac (a factory run of 9)and a barrel made to push dps as high as poss, this last one came out at 90 sac and even higher damage.


im gonna play around with all 4 and see which i like best, but if we had got a better experimentation in the last combine im sure it owuld have hit 1010 damage and with 160 tissues it may be poss to cap it and keep sac down to 75 ish



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