Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Opinions on rifles what do you guys think
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Dodece
Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:51 pm
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On another post we got to talking about the tusken rifle being a peice of junk. On another someone said that the sg82 was complete garbage. Personally I like these weapons, and I can see some advantages. So out of curiosity I wanted to see how you guys would organize your top picks of rifles. No need to include cdefs
1 T21 rifle its got heavy armor peirceing high damage, an while it is slow the users of it are not. So untill the speed formula revamp I doubt that will change
2 Laser rifle with a stock okay speed, and medium armor peircing a perfect weapon for master marksman and any follow up to that to get a first good hit at long range.
3 E11 I just like this one because it is fast as rifles go. I expect when the speed formula gets reworked people will look more at this one.
4 Jawa ion rifle it does stun in pvp that is god right now.
5 tusken marginally better then the dlt20 especially as a first shot weapon.
6 dlt20 I do not distinguish they are both the same. Just a solid weapon which is god when you first get it.
7 sg82 its okay especially when you find that rare E that is vuln to cold.
8 spraystick This one came from the mind of a devient office clerk. My advice is for a rifle user to get one box of pistols or carbines, and do themselves a favor.
9 Beam Rifle it just looks cool. Some day they might actually get around to letting us use it.
BlkHwkDwn
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:52 pm
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I'm more of a crafting type, but allI carry is a laser and a T-21. The T-21 I use when I need to other wise it's the laser rifle. I do agree that the other rifles certainly have their uses especailly against some of the tougher creatures.
Alamar Radoki
Theed, Naboo
Master Weaponsmith
omif
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:11 pm
#3
i like using the different damage types so i carry all of the rifles with me.
Redguard
Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:11 am
#4
T21- Well I've never been a rifleman but I can see just how devastating this weapons can be with an AP of 3. Not a very fast gun but does it really need to be? As a weaponsmithI'm still wondering why we cannot scope this rifle.
Laser Rifle- IMHO it's cert is too low. This is such a good weapon whay would you need another until the T21. I see combat rebalance written all over this gun.
E11- Probably one of the better underutilized weapons of the game. The damage is deceiving because of its AP. I can generally make them with decent speed as well.
SG88- I really see no point in this rifle. I find the idea of a cold rifle and its appearance to bejust plain dumb.* As far as cold weapons go I could envision something akin to a flamethrower that would jet supercooled liquids/gasses upon targest at close range.
Tusken rifle (aka Energy Rifle)- Luke had one of these wepons in Episode 4 and I believe it was refred to as an energy rifle. Not a horrible gun especially with it's light armor penetration. It's a modest step up from the DLT20. Maybe if they had referred to this as the energy rifle in the first place the kinetic debate would have never happened.
Jawa Ion rifle (aka Ion Rifle) Accoring to the SW metaplot Jawa and Sandpeople are not known to manufacture anything. They find, salvage and repair what they can for their own purposes. As far as the gun goes, why do we need a weapon in the game that has very few effective defenses against it? Theion rifle appears to not have been well thought out. If they could explain the reasons behind this weaponsexistence in its crrent form I'd love to hear it. I smell rebalance comming.Wouldnt it make more sense for this weapon to do electrical damage?
Spraystick- Why? Whats the point to making a rifle thats pretty much a pistol. If riflemen need back upi then they should invest in some sidearm skill points or use the D18. Close range for rifle men shouldnt be an area of strength.
DLT20/a- Good but possibly overpowered low end weapon. It has no AP and uses a common damage type but is it appropriate for a very well made newbie weapons to do over 200 damage?
Dodece
Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:21 am
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Electric on a jawa I have to disagree. Certain professions get the electric as part of their bonus. Pikemen BH Commando. Since ranged fighters do not get a particularly good kinetic weapon good for TKA likewise these professions should not get cooped their meager rations or special attack powers. The spraystick makes me wonder though how fast a weapon is it for a master riflemen. 1 second. They should make it slower increase the damage just so a master riflemen has some close in capability.
LLJK_Griz
Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:13 pm
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Dodece wrote:
The spraystick makes me wonder though how fast a weapon is it for a master riflemen. 1 second. They should make it slower increase the damage just so a master riflemen has some close in capability.
Masters don't use it, they have enough +rifle accuracy to yield a decent hit rate at close range with any rifle. Spraystick is most important to lower levelrifleman or marksman who fire every other rifle very slowly with horrible accuracy at non-ideal range.
BoyOfLight
Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:34 pm
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I only bring my T-21 with me, aside from crafting i only really krayt hunt to support my jedi
Brilyn
Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:54 pm
#8
< unless you're on Dantooine in which case don't bother using any specials on lairs - you apparently won't get payouts if you DO use specials. >
Lemme put *that* to bed right now....
I'm on Dantooine (just finished a couple hoursof missions). I use Full Auto Single2 on lairs *all* the time.
Full payout.
LLJK_Griz
Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:49 pm
#9
Brilyn wrote:
< unless you're on Dantooine in which case don't bother using any specials on lairs - you apparently won't get payouts if you DO use specials. >
Lemme put *that* to bed right now....
I'm on Dantooine (just finished a couple hoursof missions). I use Full Auto Single2 on lairs *all* the time.
Full payout.
Dant missions have been so flaky lately that people are trying to come up with explanations for all the non-paying ones. It's probably random, or maybe based on area server load.
Xix13
Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:35 pm
#10
Oh, don't forget the acid rifle, DXR-6b (Geo Rifle). The ones I've made for folks...they've fallen in love with it. Get some hi-level yellow cubes for your local WS and try one.
Be0Wulfe
Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:50 am
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T21 for PvP - it's rare a good pvp'r doesn't run around with stun armor, but in that case, carry a Jawa spare - YMMB.
T21's for mob kills, save the conditon by overcharge shooting lairs with an E11 or a Laser ... unless you're on Dantooine in which case don't bother using any specials on lairs - you apparently won't get payouts if you DO use specials.
Anything else is cutesy, but until the rebalance, useless. A T21's consistently pounds out the most damage for a master rifleman.
Dodece
Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:24 am
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I decided not to include those. They are just not a fair comparison loot schem weapons that is. I do not know I have seen master riflemen use spraysticks. They are good at close range and fire fast anyway. Maybe its because they are disposable, and worth while to use against nunas and gubbers. T21s are not cheap by any stretch. So I can see why someone would use this little gun to wax little aggros.
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