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Thread: Question about DE-10 for those who have crafted them

Anarchicgorilla
Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:33 am
#1

I heard the barrel makes quite a diffence on craft... now I have some and they show no stats however some are yellow and some are white (the wording)


Does this mean anything... or can it be someone died a few times with them and the yellow are junk due to decay from death?



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Summerflame
Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:57 am
#2

The Yellow ones have a chance of breaking the damage cap.
The White pre CU ones are not recommendable for crafting as they have no benefit what so ever.
The White ones post cu (the ones in stacks) have sac reduction even though its an invisible mod.

So there you have it



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Anarchicgorilla
Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:16 am
#3

ty very much



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Norreen60
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:15 am
#4






Summerflame wrote:
The Yellow ones have a chance of breaking the damage cap.
The White pre CU ones are not recommendable for crafting as they have no benefit what so ever.
The White ones post cu (the ones in stacks) have sac reduction even though its an invisible mod.

So there you have it




aww i wish i knew the pre-cu white ones had no benifit i made one for a guildie more for show though but i would liked it to be better i guess that was why




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Brainplay
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:22 am
#5






Summerflame wrote:
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The White ones post cu (the ones in stacks) have sac reduction even though its an invisible mod.



Is this confirmed or speculation? If so, is the mod random or standardized?






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Terv
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:25 pm
#6

Are they ever going to put stats on the Barrels?





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Summerflame
Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:29 am
#7






Brainplay wrote:





Summerflame wrote:
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The White ones post cu (the ones in stacks) have sac reduction even though its an invisible mod.



Is this confirmed or speculation? If so, is the mod random or standardized?







If you are asking if its dev confirmed, then no.


But it is general belief and a lot of people have stated this on this very forum. I myself have not gotten through more than one stack of white post CU barrels so far, but they had a lower sac than the Yellow barrel ones Ive made.


I would guess its random like on the Trando barrel, but that is true guessing





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Augger
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:39 am
#8

I've crafted many DE-10s over the period of this game, and I can honestly say that I have seen no huge changes between preCU "Whites" or "Yellows".Furthermore have I seennothing to indicate to me thatthere is a "hidden stat" on either those, or the new looted stacked postCU barrels.


In fact, I made two DE-10s yesterday. One with a preCU barrel, and one with a postCU barrel. The guns differed with the postCU barreled one being less max damage, and what it really boiled down to was experimentation success.


I do not believe there is any voodoo, hocus-pocus, or secretly programmed code to explain these barrels. I think they are just what they are advertised as .... looted DE-10 barrels.


This is one of those 800 day old discussions that will likely never be solved.




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blue-phoenix
Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:26 am
#9

do we know what the caps on the de-10 is? i've seen some de-10s that converted to near the 1k max is that cap or over cap?



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WhitelighterofSH
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:48 am
#10

Im having a DE10 made (more for RP uses than anything). The one WS I spoke to said he *thought* the DE10 was very hard to double cap even when using cells, he wasnt sure though and recommended I attempt to find out.

So my question to you all is this - using cells (170+), 12pt, white barrel (not sure if its pre or post) would it be very difficult to cap the damage and then cap SAC or get close to SAC cap?

Thanks for answering



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Brainplay
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:26 am
#11

capping damage on any weapon isn't that hard with cells. However, with a loot barrel with no stats its generally impossible to SAC cap a weapon as even maxed out it wont reach 65.


I've played around with some barrels which were probably pre-CU and even though I maxed out the exp bar for SAC it wouldn't go below 73 or 75..can't remember. Anyway I ended up dumping the rest into damage and although it was damage capped it was still at a disadvantage vs. other pistols.


My question is: How many have made a SAC capped DE-10s? If so then more than likely the idea of the invisible stats on the barrel are true.







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nebaf
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:48 am
#12







Brainplay wrote:

My question is: How many have made a SAC capped DE-10s? If so then more than likely the idea of the invisible stats on the barrel are true.







*Raises hand*


Made this DE-10 the other day: http://www.swgvod.net/forum/image.php?iid=1089

If only I had used 184 damage cells I might have double-capped it, but still I can't complain.


Made 2 others as well with 69 SAC, there definetly has to be an invisible SAC stat on the newbarrels IMO.


Edit: Just made another DE-10 with a Post-CU barrel and 179 damage EPCs. It capped at 960.25 max damage and 65 SAC

Message Edited by nebaf on 10-12-2005 06:36 PM



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ShugFlurry
Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:04 am
#13



Augger wrote:
I've crafted many DE-10s over the period of this game, and I can honestly say that I have seen no huge changes between preCU "Whites" or "Yellows". Furthermore have I seen nothing to indicate to me that there is a "hidden stat" on either those, or the new looted stacked postCU barrels.
In fact, I made two DE-10s yesterday. One with a preCU barrel, and one with a postCU barrel. The guns differed with the postCU barreled one being less max damage, and what it really boiled down to was experimentation success.
I do not believe there is any voodoo, hocus-pocus, or secretly programmed code to explain these barrels. I think they are just what they are advertised as .... looted DE-10 barrels.
This is one of those 800 day old discussions that will likely never be solved.





DE-10s havent been around for 800 days



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