Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: does bespin port actually do anything?
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ralyias
Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:26 am
#1
says its 11+ to next attempt but i get no benefits at all...am i drinking it at the wrong time?
drupps
Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:03 am
#3
My char lives in a city that has the Research special designation. I always get great results, I've never gotten an amazing without the port. But when I do use the port I probably have a 10-15% chance of an amazing. So it doesn't happen often even with the port.
Just my thoughts.
SabbathChild
Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:40 am
#4
I usually use a +11 and it helps me. It's Pyolian (spelling?) cake that I can't figure out. I can't tell if it does anything or not.
Message Edited by SabbathChild on 07-27-2004 08:42 AM
Siaro
Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:46 am
#5
I always use the port when combining something special even though I haven't seen any data saying it works or doesn't work. Have never had a failure while using it though,
The cake I also use when experimenting on something important but it is just such a pain in the ass to take a bite before every experimentation. It just forces you to use experimentation points in bigger bunches than what I'm usually comfortable with.
Ironshard
Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:16 pm
#6
Here is my finding.
Pyollian Cake:
You only take this during the assembly phase. It's not to be used durning experimentation. Only use right after you select all your resources and components but before you hit assemble.
Does Pyollian Cakes help? I have mixed feelings about this. I only use the best resources I can when I make anything, yet I have had critical failures while eating this. I usually don't bother using this but I know crafters who swear by it.
Bespin Port:
You only drink this during the experimentation phase. You should take a drink each time after you add in your experimentation point(s) but before you click Run Experiment.
Does Bespin Port help? I find this does help. I believe I have gotten one Moderate Success while using this but most are Great Success or Amazing Success. This drink will usually feel you up after 4 swigs.
Good Crafting,
Tel-Zoran
Eclipse - Lok - Ratava
Master Weaponsmith
Master Artisan
Pyollian Cake:
You only take this during the assembly phase. It's not to be used durning experimentation. Only use right after you select all your resources and components but before you hit assemble.
Does Pyollian Cakes help? I have mixed feelings about this. I only use the best resources I can when I make anything, yet I have had critical failures while eating this. I usually don't bother using this but I know crafters who swear by it.
Bespin Port:
You only drink this during the experimentation phase. You should take a drink each time after you add in your experimentation point(s) but before you click Run Experiment.
Does Bespin Port help? I find this does help. I believe I have gotten one Moderate Success while using this but most are Great Success or Amazing Success. This drink will usually feel you up after 4 swigs.
Good Crafting,
Tel-Zoran
Eclipse - Lok - Ratava
Master Weaponsmith
Master Artisan
Drek_Durshell
Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:40 pm
#7
I use both cake and port when crafting expensive stuff.
I have yet to crit fail a combine when using cake I think.
I seems to be working....but tbh I dont know.
Any experiment data on the use would be welcome.
Glizzy
Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:20 pm
#8
wish they had some food to eat when you are slicing something...
damn 20% speed slices on a krayt DE-10 and Krayt Jawa Ions last night 
jefdenbeffer
Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:08 pm
#9
since i've been using pyollian cake (only using it for stuff like scythes and acklay weapons) i've never had a critical, and i've made at least a 100
i seem to be getting more great and amazing successes by NOT using bespin port
i live in research center and always have 0 BF
Ichi-ban
Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:51 am
#10
Ironshard wrote:
Here is my finding.
Pyollian Cake:
You only take this during the assembly phase. It's not to be used durning experimentation. Only use right after you select all your resources and components but before you hit assemble.
Does Pyollian Cakes help? I have mixed feelings about this. I only use the best resources I can when I make anything, yet I have had critical failures while eating this. I usually don't bother using this but I know crafters who swear by it.
Bespin Port:
You only drink this during the experimentation phase. You should take a drink each time after you add in your experimentation point(s) but before you click Run Experiment.
Does Bespin Port help? I find this does help. I believe I have gotten one Moderate Success while using this but most are Great Success or Amazing Success. This drink will usually feel you up after 4 swigs.
Good Crafting,
Tel-Zoran
Eclipse - Lok - Ratava
Master Weaponsmith
Master Artisan
I find the bar much more effective for this, although it's usually four drinks and I'm trying to feel something up 
My two credits.
I use pyollian cake +14 during my combine. Does it help? I don't really know... but it makes me happy to know it might be working.
I use bespin port +11 between each experimentation attempt, and I do infact swear by this. I don't think I've had a moderate success yet with bespin in my system, and the one time I forgot to drink before experimenting I got a moderate (on a Krayt Scatter no less).
So there ismy two creds
BrokenDrum
Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:15 am
#11
Howdy;
Played with this for about a week and got no measure of advantage <shrug> If it DOES help - it is a very minor thing and just wastes time as far as I am concerned.
JamesHighwest
Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:37 pm
#12
I have used Bespin (+10, I think) and got a moderate on an experimentation in a Research city on a 42+ crafting station while using a 15.00 tool...... when crafting a krayt laser rifle! 
Bermag
Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:56 am
#13
Both buffs rise your probabilities to get better result but you can still get bad results.
if I had to choose between Pyollian or Bespin I would choose Pylooian. I have never got a critical failure when buffed with Pyollian. but I have got several criticals when not using it. I think I almost ever get great or amazing success on initial assembly
Harder to say if Bespin works or not. probably would have to run hundreds of experimentation with and without and compare. maybe even 1000 attempts to have something statistical accurate.
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