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Thread: Crafting and Loot Drops

Gravitas
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:10 am
#1

When I bought this game, one of the things that sold it to me was the crafting system. It was quite clearly stated on these boards and elswhere that one of the innovative aspects of SWG was the fact that player crafted goods would always be better than any loot found in the game. This would create a player managed economy and avoid camping of NPC areas.


So what do we have now? massive camping of all sites for players to get uber schematics/components which are very definitely better than any of the regularly available player crafted items - these schematics and components then being auctioned for stupid amounts of money on these very boards.


Do I feel conned? You bet I do!


Zhoed Moque

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Tortilla
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:39 am
#2

Agreed. If enhancers are required for this game let them be player crafted. I also heard of NPC's giving uber resouces as rewards.... ill certainly cancel my accounts if that ever happens.



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pyclone
Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:22 am
#3

I really dont' thing you can say that the looted schematics are better then crafted ones.


The stun pistol yes its better but only if you hae krayt to go in it and at that point a scatter would probably be better.


The rifle is a laser rifle with 80 less dmg, good but not "beter" just different


The new two handed sword, its inbetween the curved and power hamer, but not "beter" than either just different


Yes everyone wants the new stuff but its not like your not selling your original stuff still





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Jedi_Titus
Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:13 pm
#4






pyclone wrote:

I really dont' thing you can say that the looted schematics are better then crafted ones.


The stun pistol yes its better but only if you hae krayt to go in it and at that point a scatter would probably be better.





If you are refering to the geo pistol, it is head and shoulders above the tangle pistol with out needing any krayt tissues.


The geo pistols I've made have max dmg over 200 and speeds in the 2's, while the tangles have only about 100 max dmg and speeds in the 3s.


I agree with the original poster. The devs are taking a game that is not intentrionally not centered around loot or camping and turning it into one that is. So, far they haven't gone "too" far in that direction but if they continue in that direction the game will be completely center around loot in a few months. No one will carft without loot. I find the for me at least the geo loot tends to add more "pain"/stress/annoyance than it does fun.


The Devs want to have cool and useful loot, but the route they are taking makes them walk a very thin line.



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WerrtZer
Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:37 pm
#5

I've already said my piece on this in the "Tangle Pistol now defunct? Thx Devs" thread but I feel I have to challenge what pyclone said:


The DXR6-b is head and shoulders above the original rifles we could craft or had permanent schems for. ,<b>My best T21 comes out at 165-400 7.7, my best Laser rifle comes out at 85-440 6.1, while my best DXR6-b comes out at 147-356 5.9. All of these used the same stock and barrel (scope where available)


Now in terms of what average DPS is,I reckon the DXR6-b is gonna take it when you factor in the HAM costs and the range modifiers. I still have nothing against the DXR6-b as I can get the schems pretty easily. The good cubes are a little harder to find but that's like krayt tissue in a way, and it only takes some credits or a good guild to get them.


The Scythe is NOT somewhere in between the 2H Cleaver and the PH: It has the highest min dmg coupled with low speed and superb range mods which means that wielders can actually hit a target with their specials. Once again it may not be easy to get the schem for these but at least everyone has a fair chance.


I'll not go on about crafted Geo sonic pistol V Tangle in here, but if you've read my thread you'll know my standpoint on this issue.


And like I said in that thread also: this is only the beginning...





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pyclone
Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:31 pm
#6

i don't think anyone, except those that abuse it, acually like the sonic pistol it was a mis calculation by the devs.



I"m a rifle man and i can tell you that the geno rifle has not replaced my laser or my jawa rifle, its just another tool, it hare very nice range mods is what i like about it





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