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Thread: Help with crafting T21's Over 400 Damage

TPRGoonan
Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:19 pm
#1

Hi I am a 10point Weaponsmith needing help with making T21's.

My questions are as follows?

1) With making the Advanced Blaster Power Handler, Adanced Rifle Barrel and Advanced Stock what stats should I be aiming for?

2) Does the quality of the three items mentioned above effect the final out come of the T21's?

3) What quality stats should I aiming to have to make 400+ Damage T21's?

eg Alantium Carbonate Ore CD above --- OQ above ---

Any other help making a 400+ Max Damage T21 would be mush appreciated.




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d0qtrX
Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:45 am
#2






Kershakk wrote:




There's no hard and fast answer on this - it depends on your server's resources, but the average seems to level out at 20-40/-0.4 for adv. handlers, 11/11/-0.33 for adv. barrels and 40/40/-0.3 stocks.








How the hell did you get - speed on your stock? Or is that just a typo?


YamadaMan
Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:55 am
#3

there's a story here on eclipse about a few WS who made great stocks trying to "mess up" the experimentation, getting 1 moderate success that lowers the speed and dramatically increases damage on stocks. as I heard it can take hours to get the result.



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BoberFett
Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:55 am
#4






d0qtrX wrote:





Kershakk wrote:




There's no hard and fast answer on this - it depends on your server's resources, but the average seems to level out at 20-40/-0.4 for adv. handlers, 11/11/-0.33 for adv. barrels and 40/40/-0.3 stocks.








How the hell did you get - speed on your stock? Or is that just a typo?








I don't think it's possible to get negative speed on advanced stocks. I've made and destroyed hundreds upon hundreds of stocks trying to get that perfect schem. The best I've ever seen is 40/40 +0.325.
Kershakk
Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:16 pm
#5








TPRGoonan wrote:
Hi I am a 10point Weaponsmith needing help with making T21's.

My questions are as follows?

1) With making the Advanced Blaster Power Handler, Adanced Rifle Barrel and Advanced Stock what stats should I be aiming for?


There's no hard and fast answer on this - it depends on your server's resources, but the average seems to level out at 20-40/-0.4 for adv. handlers, 11/11/-0.33 for adv. barrels and 40/40/-0.3 stocks.



2) Does the quality of the three items mentioned above effect the final out come of the T21's?


Certainly does.

3) What quality stats should I aiming to have to make 400+ Damage T21's?

eg Alantium Carbonate Ore CD above --- OQ above ---


Tough call. You can always compensate one less than great resource by having very strong resources in another. Your Ditanium and Polonium will be the 2 driving resources, representing the majority of your build's resource requirements. If you can get a 15% base build, I'd say you're getting there. Otherwise just go for the best you can get.


Bear in mind resource caps - Polonium Iron's Cd is capped low, and Ditanium has the standard Steel Cd cap.


To give you an idea though, I have Ditanium 480ish Cd/ 960ish OQ, Polonium 91ish Cd/ 950ish OQ, filler copper with 920+ on both (still waiting to get a combined 1950+ filler copper, which when it happens I will strip mine like mad), GRCGs at 963 OQ and Alantium with 971 OQ - and this puts me on 405 max dam, 7.5 speed.

Any other help making a 400+ Max Damage T21 would be mush appreciated.








epidimick
Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:53 pm
#6






BoberFett wrote:





d0qtrX wrote:





Kershakk wrote:




There's no hard and fast answer on this - it depends on your server's resources, but the average seems to level out at 20-40/-0.4 for adv. handlers, 11/11/-0.33 for adv. barrels and 40/40/-0.3 stocks.








How the hell did you get - speed on your stock? Or is that just a typo?








I don't think it's possible to get negative speed on advanced stocks. I've made and destroyed hundreds upon hundreds of stocks trying to get that perfect schem. The best I've ever seen is 40/40 +0.325.




due to resources caps u are right. best i can make are 40/40 .277





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Kershakk
Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:12 pm
#7

Argh, that was a typo in a huge way. Sorry about that. 0.3 is the correct number.
FreeEnterprise
Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:14 am
#8

I have some 40/40 .175 advanced stocks.....



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Torael
Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:26 pm
#9






FreeEnterprise wrote:

I have some 40/40 .175 advanced stocks.....







Lucky. I have the potential to get 40-40 .293....but I got tired of not hitting it and settled for 40-39 .293 after awhile.


Anyway, to pitch you some data, my T21's are currently 173-405 7.5...except for a run where I "suffered" from an apparently rare bug which resulted in 175-415 7.3. My ABPH's are 21-42 -.42, Barrels are 11-11 -.33, stocks are the mentioned 40-39 .293. Polonium is 107 Con/948 OQ, the particular Ditanium I use is 419 con/891 oq. For the "lesser" resources, I have 997oq Atlantium, 919oq Gallinorian (sp?)Gem, and I fill the "Metal" requirement with a 944 con/960 oq polysteel copper.




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BoberFett
Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:37 pm
#10

What SR wood and alum are all of you using to get speeds less than .325? I figured that was the cap since it's a nice round number, and I've never gotten lower than that, despite hundreds of attempts.
FreeEnterprise
Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:01 pm
#11






BoberFett wrote:

What SR wood and alum are all of you using to get speeds less than .325? I figured that was the cap since it's a nice round number, and I've never gotten lower than that, despite hundreds of attempts.






Its a crit success or a lucky good success....



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Ollit
Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:28 am
#12

ill get the guys name when the server comes up but i pick u pa very nice t 21 unsliced its 424 max dmg



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