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Thread: guide pre slice damage to reach cap [v1 needs some testing please]

CorenLanra
Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:30 pm
#1

Unfortunately you cannot slice to the crafting cap,or so I've heard. There is "slicing" cap which varies by model, not sure if that is a % of max or what. You might want to check out the smuggler forums.



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sohokerv
Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:55 pm
#2

yep if you take the decimal point off and work out the percent to add to it you should get the slicing cap eg for a t21 to slice 2percent to the craft cap your t21 would have to be 1160.32 but as the decimals are lost once crafted 2percent slicing 1160 will give you 1183 which is the t21 slice cap

however your point is valid as i have only tested this on t21 which is why this thread is version1 and im asking for further testing =]
soho



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Automan73
Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:12 pm
#3

bah...soho go back to loot hor'n...it;s what your best at..all this math is gonna fry your brain







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sohokerv
Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:01 pm
#4



Automan73 wrote:

bah...soho go back to loot hor'n...it;s what your best at..all this math is gonna fry your brain





lmao tis true... hey.. you have smugler and ws lol go test /evilgrin



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atodorovic
Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:53 pm
#5

I've hit the featherweight slicing cap @ 935, it just will not go past that... tried it now on two guns, just to be sure...





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sohokerv
Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:04 am
#6


well seems the slice cap dosent work in a reasonable way and that i wasnt listening in math lol so please ignore this guide

thanks

soho


hi ive written up a list of the max damage to stop at when crafting a weapon to be able to slice as close as posibal to the damage cap please remember that this is mathmaticaly sound however untested in game as im not ws and nolonger smugler so please test and provide feedback


notes


1 once crafted a weapon loses the numbers after the decimal place and slicing as far as known does not recognise them so in most cases you will never slice to the crafted weapon cap eg; to make a t21 come out at 1184 max from a 8percent slice you would have to have a t21 that had 1089.28 damage after crafting but as you lose the numbers after the decimal the max you will ever slice a t21 to is 1183 [however i have left the decimals on and would advise not going over them when crafting as this may or may not affect the slice]


2 there are many reports of slicing not getting near the crafted weapon cap this is mainly due to a misunderstanding slicing will only slice for the exact amount of the slice so if your t21 was 1090 damage an 8percent slice would not work as it would take it over the cap and the smugler would get a message saying he cant slice over the cap thus giving the false impresion that a t21 slice cap was 1090


3 many many thanks to Abbell for starting the weapon cap sticky where all of my cap numbers have been taken from




slice maths damage needed to cap the weapon with slice


Alliance Disruptor Pistol
Max 948
8percent slice 948 -[948x0.08=75.84]= 872.16
4percent slice 948 -[948x0.04=37.92]= 910.16
2percent slice 948 -[948x0.02=18.96]= 929.04

D18 Pistol
Max 92
8percent slice 92 -[92x0.08=7.36]= 84.64
4percent slice 92 -[92x0.04=3.68]= 88.32
2percent slice 92 -[92x0.02=1.84]= 90.16

DE-10 Pistol(max dmg may be based on barrel used)
Max 969.25
8percent slice 969.25 -[969.25x0.08=77.54]= 891.71
4percent slice 969.25 -[969.25x0.04=38.77]= 930.48
2percent slice 969.25 -[969.25x0.02=19.385]= 949.865




DL44
Max 143
8percent slice 143 -[143x0.08=11.44]= 131.56
4percent slice 143 -[143x0.04=5.72]= 137.28
2percent slice 143 -[143x0.02=2.86]=140.14

DL44 Metal Pistol
Max 356
8percent slice 356 -[356x0.08=29.2]= 326.8
4percent slice 356 -[356x0.04=14.24]= 341.76
2percent slice 356 -[356x0.02=7.12]= 348.88

DL44 XT
Max 948
8percent slice 948 -[948x0.08=75.84]= 872.16
percent slice 948 -[948x0.04=37.92]= 910.16
percent slice 948 -[948x0.02=18.96]= 929.04

Death-Hammer Pistol
Max 709
8percent slice 709 -[709x0.08=56.72]= 652.28
4percent slice 709 -[709x0.04=28.36]= 680.64
2percent slice 709 -[709x0.02=14.18]= 694.82




FeatherWeight FWG 5
Max 967
8percent slice 967 -[967x0.08=77.36]= 889.64
4percent slice 967 -[967x0.04=38.68]= 928.32
2percent slice 967 -[967x0.02=19.34]= 947.66




FWG 5
Max 948
8percent slice 948 -[948x0.08=75.84]= 872.16
4percent slice 948 -[948x0.04=37.92]= 910.16
2percent slice 948 -[948x0.02=18.96]= 929.04




Genosian Sonic Blaster
Max 592
8percent slice 592 -[592x0.08=47.36]= 544.64
4percent slice 592 -[592x0.04=23.68]= 568.32
2percent slice 592 -[592x0.02=11.84]= 580.16




High Capacity Scatter pistol
Max 948
8percent slice 948 -[948x0.08=75.84]= 872.16
4percent slice 948 -[948x0.04=37.92]=910.16
2percent slice 948 -[948x0.02=18.96]= 929.04

Intimidator Pistol
Max 948
8percent slice 948 -[948x0.08=75.84]= 872.16
4percent slice 948 -[948x0.04=37.92]= 910.16
2percent slice 948 -[948x0.02=18.96]= 929.04




Launcher Pistol
Max 264
8percent slice 264 -[264x0.08=21.12]= 242.88
4percent slice 264 -[264x0.04=10.56]= 253.44
2percent slice 264 -[264x0.02=5.28]=258.72




Renegade Pistol
Max 948
8percent slice 948 -[948x0.08=75.84]= 872.16
4percent slice 948 -[948x0.04=37.92]= 910.16
2percent slice 948 -[948x0.02=18.96]= 929.04

Scout Blaster
Max 189
8percent slice 189 -[189x0.08=15.12]= 173.88
4percent slice 189 -[189x0.04=7.56]= 181.44
2percent slice 189 -[189x0.02=3.78]= 185.22




Scatter
Max 356
8percent slice 356 -[356x0.08=29.2]= 326.8
4percent slice 356 -[356x0.04=14.24]= 341.76
2percent slice 356 -[356x0.02=7.12]= 348.88

Striker Pistol
Max 356
8percent slice 356 -[356x0.08=29.2]= 326.8
4percent slice 356 -[356x0.04=14.24]= 341.76
2percent slice 356 -[356x0.02=7.12]= 348.88

Alliance Needler
Max 678
8percent slice 678 -[678x0.08=54.24]= 623.76
4percent slice 678 -[678x0.04=27.12]= 650.88
2percent slice 678 -[678x0.02=13.56]= 664.44




Czerka dart
Max 931
8percent slice 931 -[931x0.08=74.48]= 856.52
4percent slice 931 -[931x0.04=37.24]= 98.35
2percent slice 931 -[931x0.02=18.62]= 912.38




DH17 Carbine
Max 106
8percent slice 106 -[106x0.08=8.48]= 97.52
4percent slice 106 -[106x0.04=4.24]= 101.76
2percent slice 106 -[106x0.02=2.12]= 103.88




DH17 Short Carbine
Max 212
8percent slice 212 -[212x0.08=16.96]= 195.04
4percent slice 212 -[212x0.04=8.48]= 203.52
2percent slice 212 -[212x0.02=4.24]= 207.76




E11 Mark II
Max 1063
8percent slice 1063 -[1063x0.08=85.04]= 977.96
4percent slice 1063 -[1063x0.04=42.52]= 1020.48
2percent slice 1063 -[1063x0.02=21.26]= 1041.74




Elite Carbine
Max 1063
8percent slice 1063 -[1063x0.08=85.04]= 977.96
4percent slice 1063 -[1063x0.04=42.52]= 1020.48
2percent slice 1063 -[1063x0.02=21.26]= 1041.74




Laser Carbine
Max 857
8percent slice 857 -[857x0.08=68.56]=788.44
4percent slice 857 -[857x0.04=34.28]= 822.72
2percent slice 857 -[857x0.02=17.14]= 839.86




Proton Carbine
Max 923
8percent slice 923 -[923x0.08=73.84]= 849.16
4percent slice 923 -[923x0.04=36.92]= 886.08
2percent slice 923 -[923x0.02=18.46]= 904.54




ADV Laser Rifle
Max 1184
8percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.08=94.72]=1089.28
4percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.04=47.36]= 1136.64
2percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.02=23.68]=1160.32

Assault Bowcaster
Max 1184
8percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.08=94.72]= 1089.28
4percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.04=47.36]=1136.64
2percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.02=23.68]= 1160.32

Berserker Rifle
Max 887
8percent slice 887 -[887x0.08=70.96]= 816.04
4percent slice 887 -[887x0.04=35.48]= 851.52
2percent slice 887 -[887x0.02=17.74]= 869.26




DL20 Rifle
Max 120
8percent slice 120 -[120x0.08=9.66]= 110.34
4percent slice 120 -[120x0.04=4.83]=115.17
2percent slice 120 -[120x0.02=2.415]= 117.585




E11 Rifle
Max 592
8percent slice 592 -[592x0.08=47.36]=544.64
4percent slice 592 -[592x0.04=23.68]= 568.32
2percent slice 592 -[592x0.02=11.84]=580.16




Heavy Lightning Rifle
Max 1150
8percent slice 1150 -[1150x0.08=92]= 1052
4percent slice 1150 -[1150x0.04=46]= 1004
2percent slice 1150 -[1150x0.02=23]= 1127




Recon Bowcaster
Max 140
8percent slice 140 -[140x0.08=11.2]= 128.8
4percent slice 140 -[140x0.04=5.6]= 134.4
2percent slice 140 -[140x0.02=2.8]= 137.2




T21 Rifle
Max 1184
8percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.08=94.72]= 1089.28
4percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.04=47.36]= 1136.64
2percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.02=23.68]= 1160.32




Tusken Rifle
Max 887
8percent slice 887 -[887x0.08=70.96]= 816.04
4percent slice 887 -[887x0.04=35.48]= 851.52
2percent slice 887 -[887x0.02=17.74]= 869.26




LLC
Max 626
8percent slice 626 -[626x0.08=50.08]= 575.92
4percent slice 626 -[626x0.04=25.04]= 600.96
2percent slice 626 -[626x0.02=12.52]= 613.48




Plasma Flamer
Max 1148
8percent slice 1148 -[1148x0.08=91.84]=1056.16
4percent slice 1148 -[1148x0.04=45.92]=1102.08
2percent slice 1148 -[1148x0.02=22.96]=1125.04




Curved Sword
Max 356
8percent slice 356 -[356x0.08=29.2]= 326.8
4percent slice 356 -[356x0.04=14.24]= 341.76
2percent slice 356 -[356x0.02=7.12]= 348.88




Sword
Max 120
8percent slice 120 -[120x0.08=9.66]= 110.34
4percent slice 120 -[120x0.04=4.83]= 115.17
2percent slice 120 -[120x0.02=2.415]=117.585

2hnd Axe
Max 120
8percent slice 120 -[120x0.08=9.66]= 110.34
4percent slice 120 -[120x0.04=4.83]= 115.17
2percent slice 120 -[120x0.02=2.415]=117.585




Curved Sword (2hnd)
Max 356
8percent slice 356 -[356x0.08=29.2]= 326.8
4percent slice 356 -[356x0.04=14.24]= 341.76
2percent slice 356 -[356x0.02=7.12]= 348.88




Power Hammer
Max 1184
8percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.08=94.72]= 1089.28
4percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.04=47.36]= 1136.64
2percent slice 1184 -[1184x0.02=23.68]= 1160.32

Metal Staff
Max 110
8percent slice 110 -[110x0.08=8.8]= 101.2
4percent slice 110 -[110x0.04=4.4]= 105.6
2percent slice 110 -[110x0.02=2.2]= 107.8

Blaster Fist
Max 655
8percent slice 655 -[655x0.08=52.4]= 602.6
4percent slice 655 -[655x0.04=26.2]= 628.8
2percent slice 655 -[655x0.02=13.1]= 641.9




hope that helps and please post feedback and results


thanks


soho [farstar]

Message Edited by sohokerv on 08-02-2005 06:17 PM



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JoolNoret
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:20 am
#7

On the smuggler forums we are tring to make up a list of slice caps to compare against the damage caps.


Yesterday i was slightly miffed at the fact i used an illegal core booster to get an extra 5 damage points on an elite carbine which has a crafted cap of 1063.75 but also unknown to me a slice cap of 1046.


I find it relatively funny now but at the time


I think that with some collaboration with the weaponsmiths and smugglers we could hopefully compile a jointlist of capsto avoid wasting the ever difficult to find high end slicing loots.


the thread can be found at : http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=217898


Any contributions will be greatly appreciated
flounder05
Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:38 pm
#8

Nope, a level 3 damage slice will increase the weapon a total of 8% from what it was.



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ilep
Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:10 pm
#9


Soho, are you sure about note #2? that seems to go against what other people have been saying about slice caps.... I've not tested myself, anyone know for sure?



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sohokerv
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:28 pm
#10



ilep wrote:
Soho, are you sure about note #2? that seems to go against what other people have been saying about slice caps.... I've not tested myself, anyone know for sure?




i was but now im uncertain everything i sliced before i quit smugler [t21's alr's and a few forgoten pistols] worked as i posted...
now it seems more and more people are finding a second set of caps
it seems extreamly stupid to program a whole set of extra caps when there are good ones already there but hey this is a soe game



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Cygnusaa
Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:42 am
#11


stupid question but....are the slice percentages cumulative?


in other words, if you slice a 1000 dmg weapon to level 3, does it do the following? :


level 1 slice [1000*.02=1020]


level 2 slice [1020*.04=1060.80]


level 3 slice [1060.80 *.08=1145.66]


or does it use the original dmg figure (in this case 1000) for each increase?


i know this should be in smuggler forums and ill probably post it there as well....








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Ecnirp
Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:16 am
#12

DL44 XT's - I have sliced a lot of these, they won't slice over 916 damage.
flounder05
Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:29 am
#13

For anybody who is interested, I noticed a brand new slicing caps thread in the smuggler forum.



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