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I get a ton of tells from melee class's that get ahold of a nice Rancor Tooth and want me to make a sword for them and I always have to explain the pro's and con's of those. Here is a first hand example of the three main swords made with Rancor Teeth.

The Rancor Teeth in question had the following stats:

Min Dmg 8
Max Dmg 67
Speed .746
Wound 38
Ideal -7
HAM 18/11/18

Listed below is all three swords that I normally stock in the LOW HAM variety since that's how I experimented on these:

Melee Weapons [LOW HAM LINE]

1H Curved Sword - 76-173 2.2 Spd +10 Ideal Range 22/45/30

2H Curved Sword - 63-250 2.5 Spd +8 Ideal Range 25/55/30

Rykk Blade - 76-175 2.4 Spd -7 Ideal Range 44/34/30


Here is the Rancor Tooth Variety of all three:

1H Curved Sword - 41-197 3.6 Spd -6 Ideal Range 36/53/45 62% Wound Chance

2H Curved Sword - 28-275 3.9 Spd -8 Ideal Range 40/63/45
65% Wound Chance

Rykk Blade - 39-194 3.8 Spd -24 Ideal Range 62/45/47
67% Wound Chance

Now I didn't post up the wound chances on the regular items but the ones made with the Rancor Teeth are signifigantly higher in wound chance. You can see the speeds are signifigantly slower on the Rancor Teeth variety as well and that is a HUGE hit on the DPS of the weapons in question. Max dmg is higher on all three weapons so if speed isn't a concern then they might be interesting to you but the minimum dmg on the said weapons take a HUGE hit. HAM costs on all weapons in question as well as range mods are way worse on the Rancor Teeth weapons as well so this is something to consider also as the worse the range mods, the more often you will miss.

Most people don't know that the Rancor Teeth aren't an enhancement ala krayt tissue, they actually replace the sword cores themselves. The real crappy thing about the Rancor Teeth is that they actually slow a weapon down. I'm not sure if this was intentional by the dev's or not but every sword core made by normal smiths actually help your speed by at least .5 or better in all cases.

Now keep in mind I didn't use the run of the mill 5-50 teeth, these are better than your average teeth and the weapons are still worse in DPS by a large margin.

I'm hoping one day they actually change the speed on the Teeth to a negative number. If that was the case, even with the reduction in min dmg you would have a fine weapon from those teeth.

Hopefully this will at least be semi-informative for some of you that ask me these questions regarding the Rancor Teeth swords.

you might want to point out that most Rancor Teeth are 50 max damage no minimum, and are even more useless than what you posted.

my advanced sword cores are : 42 min, 42 max. AS -0.58. wound 12. all ranges +12. 6 to each HAM.

now most rancor teeth are 50 max damage, 0 min. that's 8 points of benefit on damage, while *everything* else is worse (besides wound). Slower, negative range modifiers, and huge hits to HAM.

Are these Rancor teeth the same as "Bile Drenched Rancor teeth"?

I got five of these bile covered rancor parts from a quest and i dont know what weapon they go into. Any help would be great.

Maybe if you posted stats on the Bile Drenched Teeth I could tell you more.

the thing to remember is higher max dmg and much lower minimum needs to be averaged and then adjusted for mitigation - not good - i believe higher max damageis useful for bleedsalthough i doubt the difference isworth switching weapons for ...

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Newgurus wrote:
Maybe if you posted stats on the Bile Drenched Teeth I could tell you more.

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I already listed them days ago....

Bile Soaked Rancor Tooth

Found On: Jabba's Themepark Quest
Location: Tatooine
Used In: Sword Core, Advanced Sword Core
Enhances: Min Damage, Max Damage
Penalizes:Speed +0.3

Average: +15 to Minimum Damage, +65 to Max Damage, Wound 25

Ham Costs: 30/25/25

A friend of mine had 2 180something (I want to say 185, but not sure) max damage rancor teeth drop a couple weeks ago. I made a 1 handed and a 2 handed sword with them just for fun. I cannot remember the full stats off the top of my head, but the max damage before slicing is as follows.

1 handed - 260 max - freaking moderate sucess
2 handed - 380 max - actually did good on that one

Thats with 1000 sr steel. The min damage, speed, and ham costs sucked though. Sliced both of them and got a crappy damage slice and a speed slice.

Yuck on Rancor <- named correctly to this weapons master.

I lose ground on the weapons made with these and don't use them unless pushed by the customer to 'Give It A Try Anyway' after I explain that my crated ones are better. <shrug> BTW, if you DO this, get payment in advance so you dont end up with a SLOW weapon on your vendor, heh heh.

On the average I have lost about a full second or more on speed with about a 5-7 higher max. Don't see the point to them at all unless there Are better ones than I have seen dropping somewhere.

This is a job for our correspondent.

Melee get the shaft BIG time when it comes to enhancements...

Seena

I had some 15-65 teeth to playwith today.