Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: What can be made to decrease crafter downtime?
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ShugFlurry
Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:51 am
#1
Ybagi wrote:your prices are too high if you spend alot of time restockingI like all these ideas though
Or use it for storage
Bermag
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:08 am
#2
I got the idea from a post in the tailor forum.
Many hanges have been made to lower the downtime for combat professions, but we crafter have not got that much (except for surveying from vehicles which is great).
Here are my top issues:
My top crafting issues (regarding minimizing downtime) are(in this priority 1 highest):
1) Button to relist items on vendor
2) Component crate size. This is a big issue for me as WS. For grenades like thermals and imp detonators 3 subcomponents are needed (4 for protones). Weapon component crates are 25. If I want to make a full run of grenades I can't get all items into hopper. Also is a lot of work to pick up crates and drag them into hopper. Changing crate size to at least 50 would make it much easier. Generally crate sizes are strange. Components 25 size and at same time vehicles are 50! Not to mention powerups which are 10 and that is what you use most of all crated items.
3) Improved harvester interface. To many click to retrieve resource and change resource. A better interface is needed but I would settle with macro commands tro empty/change resource.
4) Factory interface. Pain to move crates. Not only that you need to drag one item each time, you also need to make sure you select an empty spit when dropping.
Message Edited by Bermag on 03-23-2005 08:12 AM
EldritchArms
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:51 am
#3
1) I have read the devs reasoning behind this is that loading several hundred items at a time back onto vendors can seriously lag the system. I DO understand the need for restocking, otherwise someone could master merchant, load up the max # of items and drop merchant entirely, never having to worry about restocking again. I think an appropriate response would be to develop a system so that when a player presses the "restock all" button the items are restocked one itemevery 5 to 15 seconds. (The appropriate interval to decrease lag would be determined by the developers.)
2) I am a firm believer in placing crate size at a minimum of 50-100 items to both make crafting more convenient and lower the database load allowing for further improvement of the game.
3) While I find the harvestor interface annoying I would rank this at #4. I do believe the interface needs updating and that macro commands should be added. I simply find myself using factories more than harvestors. I understand that this might not be the case for every crafter and its rank should be adjusted to reflect the needs of the community, not mine personally.
4) Ifeel that a simple key command to select all items or a portion of the items in a hopper would be ideal. Not unlike Ctrl+ left click or Shift + left click in Windows.
Aside from that I am of the opinion that downtime would be further reduced if factory times were lowered by a factor of at least 5. I understand the need to limit the amount of items being flooded into the economy and the database, however I believe with the merchant item limits and the hard cap on 10 lots most of the problem has already been effectively prevented.
All that said I would also like to see something akin to REing for looted weapons and more crafter based quests. The latter of which I would assume is in the works with the new content team.
Message Edited by EldritchArms on 03-23-2005 05:53 AM
jason67
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:58 am
#4
I think the two best things they could do ingame for crafters would be the following...
1 - increase crate sizes on all items to 100(should also help the database).
2 - drag box selecting. Allowing crafters and other players to drag a box across multiple items to select them for action(ie moving to the hopper of a factory).
ShugFlurry
Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:01 am
#5
Draaaaag boooox ftw!!!
Yeah also restock... spending an hour today
Yeah also restock... spending an hour today
jason67
Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:03 am
#6
ShugFlurry wrote:
Draaaaag boooox ftw!!!
Yeah also restock... spending an hour today
They actually wouldn't need to restock all of those items if they would simply let you refresh the timer on them all
. Every 29 days or whatever the limit is, just go reset the timer on all the items the day before they all expire in order to avoid restocking. I imagine this would have minimal impact on the database and would essentially be the same thing as restocking as long as you caught it in time
EldritchArms
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:08 am
#8
Excellent idea!
jason67 wrote:
ShugFlurry wrote:
Draaaaag boooox ftw!!!
Yeah also restock... spending an hour today
They actually wouldn't need to restock all of those items if they would simply let you refresh the timer on them all
Ybagi
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:10 am
#9
your prices are too high if you spend alot of time restocking 
I like all these ideas though
EldritchArms
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:17 am
#10
Ybagi wrote:
your prices are too high if you spend alot of time restocking
I like all these ideas though
Unless he's like me and hates running out of things so he overstocks on purpose.
Message Edited by EldritchArms on 03-23-2005 07:18 AM
ShugFlurry
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:51 am
#11
Ybagi wrote:your prices are too high if you spend alot of time restockingI like all these ideas though
Or use it for storage
Bermag
Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:36 am
#12
When I say "relist button" I mean a change of interface so you can multi-select items in stockroom and press "Relist" and they will get put up for sale again with original price and description.
Of course if this change is made I guess you could apply the same UI for listing new items, ie select several items and sell them with same price/description.
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