Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Acklay Bones Q for a VET WS
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Lightsbright
Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:33 am
#1
Hi all, I just looted some 160-233 acklay bones on Scylla and I had a few questions for the Vets around these boards. I read through some posts on the crafting of the acklay and just want to be sure that I know the ins and outs of it. Bear with me if some of you have answered these before, I read as many as I could on the subject.
The Bones are not like tissue in that I won't have one burned for any schematic?
I would want to have high end Sword cores (above the 40 ish base that are craftable) ?
Can Geo cubes work into the equation? I have tons of 25 damage ones.
Last.. and by far most important.. Do you feel I should hold on to the bones until after Revamp?
I am all over the boards on this. I want to make the weapons I need and maybe not slice them until revamp so I can get some sort of damage slice. Please let me know what you think, i have tissue that I am in the same boat with.
Thank you all in advance, this is the best thing I've looted in the game (other than the exceptional DH17 that nobody can equip) and I want to be sure of how I proceed.
EldritchArms
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:16 am
#2
1) Bones are like any other item component, including tissue, in that if you were to make a schematic for the purpose of a factory run you would have to use a bone as an item component to create the schematic. In other words making a schematic is actually fully crafting an item,however,the end result is read as a schematic and not an item so that you are able to duplicate it.
I.E., You have 5 bones. You use 1 to make a schematic. You then have 4 bones that can be used to create 4 items in a factory.
2) Geo Cubes are used to create a Geonosian Sword/Reinforcement Core. The Acklay Bone replaces the Geo Core in the crafting process, so no.
3) That is a very difficult question. However, it is the statement of the developers that any weapon created now will be relative in quality after the CURB. Based upon your faith in that system working is how you should make that particular decision.
Lastly, the Smuggler Revamp will not take place until after the CURB as it is only In-Concept right now. Just in case you weren't aware the two were separate entities.
Best of luck!
Jaclyn82
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:24 am
#3
The Bones are not like tissue in that I won't have one burned for any schematic?
I would want to have high end Sword cores (above the 40 ish base that are craftable) ?
Can Geo cubes work into the equation? I have tons of 25 damage ones.
Last.. and by far most important.. Do you feel I should hold on to the bones until after Revamp?
yea you dont have to burn one for the schem, bones directly replace reinforcement cores so you just plug them in.
what does sword cores have to do with acklay bone?
geo cubes are used in crafting geo sword cores or geo reinforcement cores. if you use cubes and solidifying agents you will make an above40 dmgcore.
imo why wait, use em now and hope for a good slice.nothing beats a 1000 dmg power hammer. 
EldritchArms
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:39 am
#4
Unless he hopes to create identical items in a factory run. He can easily have unique items made from them without that problem though. Certainly whatI would do with bones that nice.
Jaclyn82 wrote:
The Bones are not like tissue in that I won't have one burned for any schematic?
I would want to have high end Sword cores (above the 40 ish base that are craftable) ?
Can Geo cubes work into the equation? I have tons of 25 damage ones.
Last.. and by far most important.. Do you feel I should hold on to the bones until after Revamp?
yea you dont have to burn one for the schem, bones directly replace reinforcement cores so you just plug them in.
FronioWalker
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:42 am
#5
Lightsbright wrote:
The Bones are not like tissue in that I won't have one burned for any schematic?
No need to do a factory run cause the bones replace a reinforcement-core so every weaponcould be hand made (advised with those high damaged bones).
I would want to have high end Sword cores (above the 40 ish base that are craftable) ?
Swordcore has nothing to do with acklay, reinforcement cores do and only in the way that a bone replaces a reinforcement ore. there is no other crafting with bones then just the weapon .
Can Geo cubes work into the equation? I have tons of 25 damage ones.
no
Last.. and by far most important.. Do you feel I should hold on to the bones until after Revamp?
if someone knows what will exactly happen with the CURB I shoot him. Maybe you should wait till combat revamp goes Beta and ask again then.
Message Edited by FronioWalker on 03-23-2005 04:44 PM
happyheadhunter
Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:17 am
#6
Whether you wait for the CURB or not, make sure you (or the WS doing the crafting) has as high shock resistance resources as you can possilbe find. I'm on Scylla also, and I know there is a steel that has 1000 SR. Let me know if you need some, I would hate to see these used with anything less. Oh...ahh...by the way,my alt issoon to be a 12 point WS and my main char a Master Smuggler.
Just out of curiousity (well not curiousity, I would club a kitten for these) how many identicals did you get?
jason67
Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:13 pm
#7
Lightsbright wrote:
Hi all, I just looted some 160-233 acklay bones on Scylla and I had a few questions for the Vets around these boards. I read through some posts on the crafting of the acklay and just want to be sure that I know the ins and outs of it. Bear with me if some of you have answered these before, I read as many as I could on the subject.
The Bones are not like tissue in that I won't have one burned for any schematic?
Each item only uses one bone so no factory schem would be required.
I would want to have high end Sword cores (above the 40 ish base that are craftable) ?
Acklay bones are used in place of reinforcement cores, so it has nothing at all to do with sword cores, but it actually replaces the core making this question a mute point. If you wanted above 40 swords cores you would need to have your smith make geonosian sword cores(uses cubes and agents).
Can Geo cubes work into the equation? I have tons of 25 damage ones.
As mentioned above the bones replace the core unit meaning you can't use both cubes/agents and bones. You have to choose one or the other, with the stats on these bones the choice is obvious.
Last.. and by far most important.. Do you feel I should hold on to the bones until after Revamp?
Personal opinion this is a double edged sword. Based on what little information any of us have I would suggest that weapons made today will not be comparable to how they will perform after the CURB, despite dev promises. Also keep in mind that there will be several new weapons coming out as well where these bones might possible benefit you greater. Also keep in mind that based on the information provided they tend to be trying to make ranged combat more viable meaning you probably wont' have as many melee players after the revamp. While those bones would make great weapons for use today, many people are holding back at this point until the curb now that we have release date. It may be more difficult to sell them later or not depending on the profession adjustments, but in the current market they are not worth as much as they once would have been(though i'm sure you'll find several willing parties). My vote would be to wait until after the CURB, we're only looking at roughly a month before it's projected release it would beshame to craft all those bones to find out there is a brand new weapon that can outperform the ones you made with those bones.
I am all over the boards on this. I want to make the weapons I need and maybe not slice them until revamp so I can get some sort of damage slice. Please let me know what you think, i have tissue that I am in the same boat with.
I would say the tissues are a tossup, it's all going to boil down on the conversion of the weapons which there isn't anyone that knows how that will work out yet. The devs stated that anything that is considered good today will be considered good after the CURB but they've stated that before on conversions that have been utter crap.
Thank you all in advance, this is the best thing I've looted in the game (other than the exceptional DH17 that nobody can equip) and I want to be sure of how I proceed.
Lightsbright
Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:06 am
#8
Thanks for the input, as you can tell I have never crafted a weapon. I ended up making 3 power hammers (2 for me to get sliced 1 fora guild mate) and ended up with3- 5.9 695 hammers pre slice. 1 30% damage, 1 22% damage and 1 33% speed slice later my hammer is PUP'd to 995 so I am happy with the results. I did keep two bones back to save for the revamp. Thanks again for everyones input.
Message Edited by Lightsbright on 03-24-2005 08:07 AM
Va-Mei
Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:19 am
#9
Ackaly bones are used to make Power Hammers, Stun Bats, & Gaffi Sticks. No other enhancement or enhanced component may be used with the bone.
The only reason you might choose to loose a bone to a schematic is if your smith has an exceptional crafting session, and you feel that a guarentee of duplicating those same results on the remaining bones is worth sacrificingone of those bones.
As for the CU... that's up to you. No one else who has enough info to make that choice can say anything.
If you choose to craft now, you will be able to predict the results, and have those weapons from now until the CU to hunt for more loot while it's still easy, PvP in the GCW, or what ever it is that you'd do with them.
If you choose to wait, you may have the chance to have these bonescrafted intosome new weapon that you find more desireable than those currently available, or you may find that the changes of the CUwill have you wanting to change your weapon of choice or even profession.
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