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Thread: Question about tissues.

Anach
Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:52 pm
#1

Recently i asked a friend to make some krayt rifles for me. As usually I get top quality weapons from him. Well i had some high end tissues 5x 173 and 4x 155 and handed them over for a HLC and ALR.


Only thing is they turned out the same stats as the base models. Now its been a while since he has crafted me something and now only has post-cu components.


He said he knows about seperating tissues before making the powerhandlers,b ut somewhere the dmg and speed from the tissues has been lost. Is there something else that needs to be done while crafting with tissues to make them actually add a bonus?


Im not a WS btw. He simply cant post in the forums.


It was a bit of a waste of some very expensive tissues. Im not worried, but would like to find out why, so we can fix the problem for next time.



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leighthal1967
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:32 pm
#2

The stats in detail might help.



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Anach
Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:52 pm
#3

Ok ill just use the ADV Laser for an example with 155 .45 tissues. The stats are still very low. Standard / Krayt


speed 2.54 / 2.31


DMG 478-997/ 335-1017


accuracy 1


wound 14.95


dps 290/ 293


sac 115./99


I asked him to put a few more exp points into SAC for the krayt version. Though this still seems far too low a spec rifle for the tissue and resrouces used by a 12pt WS.


Now the last krayt rifle he made for me is around 1.75 speed, 320dps, 1134 max and 105 sac. So i know he doesnt lack ability. Something here just doesnt seem right.





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Anach
Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:27 am
#4

This happened with the second set of tissues on the second weapon also. I wish i could explain the process more. If only i knew more about WS. I gave him some more tissues to have a play around with.


I got some very nice KraytDL44XT, Scatters and T21s made just after CU from the same person. Although those were with Pre-CU components. Im not sure exactlywhat couldof changed that muchbetween then and now.


Its frustrating for both of us.



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Ecnirp
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:10 am
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Anach wrote:

Ok ill just use the ADV Laser for an example with 155 .45 tissues. The stats are still very low. Standard / Krayt


speed 2.54 / 2.31


DMG 478-997/ 335-1017


accuracy 1


wound 14.95


dps 290/ 293


sac 115./99


I asked him to put a few more exp points into SAC for the krayt version. Though this still seems far too low a spec rifle for the tissue and resrouces used by a 12pt WS.


Now the last krayt rifle he made for me is around 1.75 speed, 320dps, 1134 max and 105 sac. So i know he doesnt lack ability. Something here just doesnt seem right.








The SAC on all of those rifles is awful.... almost looks like he didn't use a stock - my SAC on ALR is 92 and thats without any experimenting on SAC on the final assembly.


Message Edited by Ecnirp on 07-01-2005 01:12 PM

leighthal1967
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:29 am
#6

No scope either.Very Strange



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hiredgunz
Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:51 am
#7

That is strange. I used 153 max (-.31speed) on an ALR and the stats came as follows:


1133max


322base DPS


87SAC


I forgot the speed, but you can get an idea of what it should be around depending on what he experiments on.






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Xix13
Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:52 am
#8

Yeah, first thing I noticed was the accuracy of 1 = No scope. I've been making krayted weapons a lot (a few just yesterday, in fact) and have noticed no problems. Yes, since I've run out of most of my pre-CU components, the weapons are higher SAC and not quite as good as they used to be, but the difference isn't really that great and, since everybody else is in the same boat by now, I'm still near the top of my server in weapons. Sounds like your WS messed up a bit on this batch. The crit fail IS a possibility, but any WS who's making Kratyed stuf for a good customer who supplies the tissues ought to go out of his/her way to be Insp Buffed and have Cake and Port on hand. I never make krayted stuf without drinking port!



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Summerflame
Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:29 pm
#9

Well that seems wacky. Did i have a critical failure or something?






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CorenLanra
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:47 pm
#10

If indeed the WS used NO stock OR scope that says much for his knowledge. That is a sin in my book. Did he even ask?



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