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Thread: How to make the ultimate elite carbine? Question from a non-WS using loots

Nathanielstarr
Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:58 am
#1

How can I use these materials to make the ultimate Elite Carbine. Just assume that the weaponsmith is a 12 point smith with excellent resources. But I have loots that I want to use to make an overall more damaging and fast weapon. I want all the bells and whistles and HAM is not important. So I want to use everything that can possibly be added on.


6 Krayt Tissues 71 max damage -0.597 attack speed


4 Krayt Tissues 46 max damage -0.444 attack speed


2 Krayt Tissues 42 max damage -0.432 attack speed


3 High Velocity Feed Mechanisms max damage 20


3 Form Fitted Weapon Stocks 20min damage 25 max damage -0.5 attack speed 15 ideal 10 wound


The weaponsmith also has some looted rifle barrels they said they can use.


Are the feed mechanisms useful or would it be better to have the weaponsmith make their own using some of the krayt tissue?


What would result in the most damaging weapon while having fast attack speed?
Nathanielstarr
Sat Apr 03, 2004 9:17 am
#2

and how many of each item does it take for an elite? Also how many barrel loots do you need? I'm guessing just 1 but you never know. How many of these components can be made better than the loots? How many of these components can use krayt tissues to improve them?
pentjaksilat
Sat Apr 03, 2004 9:27 am
#3

you're much better off asking this in the carbineer forum than WS...stats mean nothing w/out an understanding of how they work in combat.


as far as what weapons you can do...the 6tissue could do a dxr6 (make yourself a great pve carb for those acid vuln/weak opponents).

or the 6tissue can do a laser carbine and 2 e11's/dh17 or an elite carbine and 1 e11/dh17


4handlers of course will do a laser carbine...


2handlers can only do 2e11/2dh17.


laser, elite, dxr6, e11 are your only pvp options (light piercing)...dh17 is a very nice low-level PVE weapon...great dps and speed, but ap0 makes it worthless against all the high-end content. laser's obviously the PVE king, but is hit the hardest by ranged mitigation in PVP.


depending on your server stats, regardless of what some people will say, any of the 4 ap1 carbines can be a very good PVP weapon. the biggest issue here is your speed mod...are you a master carbineer? are you carb/BHcarb? are you a master weaponsmith w/ +25spd in attachments?

this is where you single out your bad options...e11 being the fastest, by the time you put in -.4tissue and -.5stock, you have around a 1.8-1.9spd e11...which if you only have +60carb speed is great...but if you have +85 from attachments or even higher from BH...then you're going to cap crippling and reach the ceiling on the dps increase from tissue speed...which makes the slower(stronger) carbines be much more viable.


feed mechanisms i don't think go into any carbines...we use all handler weapons...('least i think they're all handlers if anything).


i'd suggest:

1. Elite Carbine: (5) +71/-.597 Tissue, F-F Stock, Advanced Scope.

2. Laser Carbine: (4) +46/-.444 Tissue, F-F Stock, Advanced Scope.

3 remaining tissue to do w/ what you will...either sell to someone who wants to do pistols, or i'd suggest e11's if you want them to go into carbines, but you only have the 1 f-f stock left after the elite & laser, so might want to evaluate your speed mods and see if advanced stocks are worthwhile to you (more dmg...slower speed...higher HAM).


you specified fast attack speed so assuming you're not a hybrid...but if you do have BH speed, i'd say trash the form-fitted stocks and go w/ advanced...HAM cost will be bad w/ both stock and scope experimented for dmg/accuracy respectively, but it'll have quite a bit more punch w/ the higher dmg crafted stocks.


Depending on what server you're on, you might have different options for what's really effective due to resource quality.


~pentjak



retired: 09/02/'04.
RIP Dunadan
...being perfected in a short time, he fulfilled long years; for his soul was pleasing to the Lord, therefore he took him quickly from the midst of wickedness...

Nathanielstarr
Sat Apr 03, 2004 9:35 am
#4

Do only the looted items "show" on the weapons. I have an ee3 with a formfitted stock added on and you can see the stock on the weapon but other carbines I have bought in the past with the advanced stocks look like they have no stock at all. Is it only the looted stocks/scopes that show up visibly on the weapons?
pentjaksilat
Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:36 pm
#5

only visible ever to yourself...or to everyone if it's dropped in a house, so nobody will see it anyway...but nice way to tell apart in inventory quickly...


only visible if the item is handcrafted and the components are dragged into the slots (not double-clicked from crate).


~pentjak



retired: 09/02/'04.
RIP Dunadan
...being perfected in a short time, he fulfilled long years; for his soul was pleasing to the Lord, therefore he took him quickly from the midst of wickedness...

Xieflow
Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:07 pm
#6

krayt tissue + form fitted stock.

Unfortunately, of the 3 or 4 Krayt Elite Carbines I've made for myself, I've gotten a speed slice every time

I did get a nice damage slice on an E11 carbine (AS 1.9 , 124 - 277 after slice without powerup)
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