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How many weapons actually fire bullets in the game?

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Avelio Erow::: Master Weaponsmith, Architect, Merchant :::Intrepid
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Nirantani
Elder Smuggler
Kendrick Starwolf
Spy
Ahazi

yeah and if you want to get to the nuts and bolts of it anything else would need a powerpack that could be set up the same way

Jacse EllVega

I dont like this idea because the people that have grinded their way to master did it to sell more weapons. So i think everyone should have to go through it.

Master TK & Master Weaponsmith

Hey guys and gals

Ok its an old old Idea and One I was on the original thread but one I feel should be brought back. What about the idea of ammo that can be made by everyone. Only no experntation allowed. That way novice weaponsmith can make them without competeling with the master weaponsmiths. It gives the novice a chance to make something to sell and get experiance. They can have a diff of 3 or something with 2 reactive gas and 3 copper.

Just a thought

• Projectiles
  The original idea here - but could be expanded to include various types of projectiles, all of which would have different effects. Would require mainly metallic resources - about 3 to 5 resources per round (making each shot with a standard bullet cost 10-15 credits on my server). Attributes for experimentation would be based on Heat & Shock resistance. Perhaps magazines would be crafted separately - you would 'use' a magazine on a factory crate of bullets to load it up. Magazines might have different varieties too, trading off capacity for bulk (i.e. accuracy).




• Standard Bullets: No change to weapon stats


• Flechettes: Much higher wound chance, higher accuracy modifiers at anything except short range


• Hollow-tip Rounds:Higher minimum damage at long & medium range, lower accuracy at long range


• Stabilised Rounds: Higher accuracy, lower max damage


• "Advanced" variants of all the above, requiring very specific resources. Require about 5 to 10 resources per round, making the price about 30 to 50cr per shot on my server.


• Power Packs
  To power the other main form of ranged weapon, the 'blaster' type. Would require metal & chemical, and a 100-shot pack would need about 300-500 resources to make (i.e. similar to projectiles in terms of resource requirements). Different packs are used for weapons of different damage types, with types including:




• Laser Power Pack: Used for 'Energy' damage type weapons


• Phaser: For 'Heat' damage


• Maser: For use in 'Blast' weapons, etc...


• Variants on powerpacks... Similar to projectile weapons, different variants modify the weapon in different ways:




• Visible Light: No change


• Infra-red: Lower speed, higher minimum damage


• X-ray: Lower accuracy at long range, at short range much higher accuracy


• Gamma: Higher speed, lower max damage, reduction in accuracy penalty for moving targets


• Perhaps a coloured crystal might change the colour of the laser you're producing?


• Various others
  And then of course there are LLCs, flame throwers etc, all of which might have multiple ammo types.

Of course, this will never happen - it would have had to be brought in with the famed combat balance, and one feels that this is too close for all the hard-coding, art and testing that would be required to make this system balanced & fair.

But it's fun to dream up, anyway!

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Aethal Sar, Weaponsmith. Retired from game - probably missing it already!

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The SWG Links Library; the Doctor hunting list; and a summary of resource stat caps.

Interesting idea but they probably will not implement it. They've gone way out of their way to make the game less inconvenient. Ammunition though realistic is hardly convenient. I still would welcome such a change however.

Given the choice between style over substance. I'll take a sandwich.

Aren't a lot of these variations effectively in the game already? Powerups are essentially no different from this. Modified effects on weapons for limited use. We are compelled to use them, but the option is there.

Now it might be a nice idea for a more diverse range of powerups only craftable by the Novice WS. But essentially, as with powerups, the factory run would rule and though people may grind themfor XPit the person selling the factory crate who will make the cash.

Rino Vasameh
Rino-McDeath Traders
Ahazi Server : -630 2930 Dantooine
(450m N of Mining Outpost)
Purveyors of Quality Weapons that Kill Things

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Memo Ithilien - Master Pistoleer, Master Weaponsmith - Eclipse

I like the idea.

I have thought from the beginning that weapons that fire forever without reloading is kind of riduculous. That magazine looking object in front of the trigger guard on a DL44 is a power pack! Ammunition/power packs would make the game more realistic and provide a regular source of income for weaponsmiths of all levels. In addition, this would probably change the way PvP and PvE are conducted. If the player has to be aware of ammunitionusage, it is almost assured that second and third weapons will have to be carried by players in case they get caught with an empty weapon and do not have time to reload. Do I think the Devs will implement something like this? Not very likely, it makes too much sense to have the game be more realisitc.

Oh well, we can dream,

Jamiser

Wookie Weaponsmith

Flurry/Naboo/Moenia 4660/-3908

'If it bleeds, we make it'

I dislike this idea.

I think they would nerf weapon decay if they brought this in.