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Thread: ALR vs. T-21 I'm confused
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Equatis
Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:59 am
#1
Hey guys.
I'm a bit of a new Weaponsmith on the scene. So far I have been having a blast with it.
I was just wondering this last night and failed finding information on it on the net... The question is, is there a difference between an ALR and a T-21? From all I have seen, they share the same speed, sac, and damage cap. However, the T-21 requires five power handlers where the ALR only requires three.
Is there some benefit that the T-21 rifle has over the ALR or would it be smart to just craft ALR for my Rifleman guild mates?
Also, any insight as to what benefit the HLR has would be appreciate too.
I'm a bit of a new Weaponsmith on the scene. So far I have been having a blast with it.
I was just wondering this last night and failed finding information on it on the net... The question is, is there a difference between an ALR and a T-21? From all I have seen, they share the same speed, sac, and damage cap. However, the T-21 requires five power handlers where the ALR only requires three.
Is there some benefit that the T-21 rifle has over the ALR or would it be smart to just craft ALR for my Rifleman guild mates?
Also, any insight as to what benefit the HLR has would be appreciate too.
CorenLanra
Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:03 pm
#2
Siymon wrote:
I might be mistaken here but T21 has higher accuracy and a better wound chance. Other than that it makes more sence to make a ALR.
At least on accuracy you are dead wrong. T21 cannot even take a scope, ALR will always be more accurate. Wound chance does just about nothing as far as I can tell in the CU, so even if it was higher (not sure of that), it wouldn't matter.
Message Edited by CorenLanra on 08-12-2005 03:03 PM
Banedon28
Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:45 pm
#3
ALR is superior because it takes less resources, easier to find resources, can have a scope which increases accuracy, and if you have krayt tissues you only need 4 of them instead of 11. As far as I can see the damage and SAC are the same, but the T21 has a higher wound % which means nothing in combat. It is sad that a master rifleman's weapon is weaker then a generic CL 54 ALR.
JarekTalram
Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:03 pm
#4
Siymon wrote:
I might be mistaken here but T21 has higher accuracy and a better wound chance. Other than that it makes more sence to make a ALR.
You would be mistaken about the accuracy. Because the T-21 doesn't take a scope the accuracy will be lower than a ALR. One difference is that a basic unenhanced T-21 will have better stats than a basic unenhanced ALR. The T-21 also has a higher wound cap.
I have also found that given the same enhancements that the T-21 will have more Damage and Wound than a ALR (as long as the Caps are not reached that is). So I would agree with the previous poster who suggested that having the extra 2 ABPH does result in increased Damage and Wound and possibly lower sac if you put some exp into that.
However with top notch Tissues or Power Cells, a good scope and low SAC stock you can make a better ALR than T-21 if you can reach the maximums. Why because it can take a scope and you can get good accuracy as a result.
JarekTalram
Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:05 pm
#5
Banedon28 wrote:
ALR is superior because it takes less resources, easier to find resources, can have a scope which increases accuracy, and if you have krayt tissues you only need 4 of them instead of 11. As far as I can see the damage and SAC are the same, but the T21 has a higher wound % which means nothing in combat. It is sad that a master rifleman's weapon is weaker then a generic CL 54 ALR.
A T-21 no longer requires 11 Tissues. It only needs 6 now. It would help if you knew something about post-cu crafting.
Message Edited by JarekTalram on 08-12-2005 02:08 PM
Cygnusaa
Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:02 pm
#6
ALR is superior to T-21 due to the lack of a scope slot in a T-21.
DarthDrool
Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:18 pm
#7
Banedon28 wrote:
ALR is superior because it takes less resources, easier to find resources, can have a scope which increases accuracy, and if you have krayt tissues you only need 4 of them instead of 11. As far as I can see the damage and SAC are the same, but the T21 has a higher wound % which means nothing in combat. It is sad that a master rifleman's weapon is weaker then a generic CL 54 ALR.
Bingo!
tesop
Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:51 pm
#8
DarthDrool wrote:
Banedon28 wrote:
ALR is superior because it takes less resources, easier to find resources, can have a scope which increases accuracy, and if you have krayt tissues you only need 4 of them instead of 11. As far as I can see the damage and SAC are the same, but the T21 has a higher wound % which means nothing in combat. It is sad that a master rifleman's weapon is weaker then a generic CL 54 ALR.
Bingo!
Welcome back from your long break.
T-21's now only require 6 tissues
Nimhnoid
Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:01 pm
#9
T21s are a lot harder to get the same stats as a ALR because of the resource requirements.
Sac and DMG cap just the same.
T21's also take 6 tissues compared to only 4 in a ALR
T21's will have 1 accuracy due to the fact that they can not take a scope.
T21s are a Master Rifleman Skill Required. ALRs are only CL 54, so its universal between professions.
All and all, T21s are just a waist of space on our servers, but people still like them.
Sac and DMG cap just the same.
T21's also take 6 tissues compared to only 4 in a ALR
T21's will have 1 accuracy due to the fact that they can not take a scope.
T21s are a Master Rifleman Skill Required. ALRs are only CL 54, so its universal between professions.
All and all, T21s are just a waist of space on our servers, but people still like them.
negima
Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:28 am
#10
this may be incorrect as im new. just a guess..
The T-21 probrably have better stats then the ALR couse of the extra power handlers, if you use some -4 (higher or less.. as long as -#) you should lower the SAC on the weapon.. T-21 uses 5 and ALR 3 which prolly add more damage/SAC/-speed to the T-21 then the ALR.. although this is just a guess
StrandedonEarth
Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:33 am
#11
Nope, as far as I can tell, there's no diff. Unless you can find the best in named resources, a T21 wil actually be worse than an ALR. Essentially the same finished rifle in a meaner looking skin. SOE has done a fantastic job of making al lot of weapons useless or pointless in the CU. At least before the CU T-21's had heavy armor piercing and a higher min dmg.
Siymon
Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:37 am
#12
I might be mistaken here but T21 has higher accuracy and a better wound chance. Other than that it makes more sence to make a ALR.
tesop
Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:53 am
#13
negima wrote:this may be incorrect as im new. just a guess..The T-21 probrably have better stats then the ALR couse of the extra power handlers, if you use some -4 (higher or less.. as long as -#) you should lower the SAC on the weapon.. T-21 uses 5 and ALR 3 which prolly add more damage/SAC/-speed to the T-21 then the ALR.. although this is just a guess
not in the business of making weapons are we?
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