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Thread: [Scythe] can I just check...(non-WS asking for help)...

invaliduser
Mon May 31, 2004 9:06 am
#1

Hi all,

please forgive the question - ive looked through the posts above, and just got confused...

Ive got a scythe schematic, and Im looking to hand it to a MWS to make me some scythes...

now, thereseem to be two methods...

(1) using WS made geo sword cores, and
(2) using looted geo sword cores...

for the MWS method, Ive got 2x geo sword core schems - (I know I would also need geo power cubes and solidifying agent)....

for the looted method, Ive got 6 identical looted geo sword cores, I cant remember the exact stats but they look good (exceptional yellow name loot) - the speed element on them is -0.64...

now, I've read a lot of MWS who are willing to make the schem up..my questions are;

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(1) are the looted cores (6 identifical) sufficient to max out the scythe's from the schem?, if not, how many would I need?

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(2) am I better handing the geo sword core schem to the MWS - assuming Im using white power cubes (lowest common denominator) - how many cubes would I need to hand-over to the MWS and how many solidifying agents would I need?

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(3) which is likely to give better scythes - (1) or (2)? (bear in mind, the looted geo cores are 'exceptional' yellow name ones)

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(4) I know MWS sometimes do this for the price of one of the scythe schems - I understand this, but I really wanted to keep all the scythes from the run (I'ts taken me a long time to get the cores/ schems etc) - would a couple of other schems be sufficient? - ive got a couple of featherweight FWG5 schems and a Tenloss DXR6 schem - would any of those be fair recompsense for the MWS's time and resources?

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(5) finally (and plse accept my apologies for all these questions) - what is the MAX number of scythes I can get out of this schem?

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many thanks all...keep up the good work for all us melee types...

Message Edited by invaliduser on 05-31-2004 09:10 AM

Message Edited by invaliduser on 05-31-2004 09:37 AM

mesome
Mon May 31, 2004 10:37 am
#2

I was going to make anew threadbut those are pretty much the exact same questions I had. The only difference is I don't have the loot items already, just the scythe schematic. So which method produces a better sword, core schematic or looted cores? And whatamount oflooted items (power cubes, sword cores, ect...)are required to make these?



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LLJK_Griz
Mon May 31, 2004 10:56 pm
#3

You can make four scythes from one schematic, assuming no critical failures. This requires either two sets of 6-7 looted cores, or two sets of 7 cubes and agents. One cube/agent will be used to make a factory schematic to produce 6 identical crafted cores. Two cores are used to make a factory scythe schematic and the other four are used to make the scythes. Then the whole thing is repeated with the other set of cores/cubes/agents to produce another two scythes from the remaining charge on the schematic.


If your cores are real Exceptional (it has Exceptional in the name), they're better than crafted. If they're non-exceptional with yellow name, most of their stats are probably better than crafted, and white name ones are usually worse than crafted in all stats.


DXR6 schems are pretty much worthless since anyone can run in and out of the cave for half an hour and fill their inventory with schematics, and the featherweight FWG5 has crap stats and you can make several thousand guns from one schematic so there's not much demand for those either.



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salatiousCrumb
Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:35 am
#4






LLJK_Griz wrote:

You can make four scythes from one schematic, assuming no critical failures. This requires either two sets of 6-7 looted cores, or two sets of 7 cubes and agents. One cube/agent will be used to make a factory schematic to produce 6 identical crafted cores. Two cores are used to make a factory scythe schematic and the other four are used to make the scythes. Then the whole thing is repeated with the other set of cores/cubes/agents to produce another two scythes from the remaining charge on the schematic.


If your cores are real Exceptional (it has Exceptional in the name), they're better than crafted. If they're non-exceptional with yellow name, most of their stats are probably better than crafted, and white name ones are usually worse than crafted in all stats.


DXR6 schems are pretty much worthless since anyone can run in and out of the cave for half an hour and fill their inventory with schematics, and the featherweight FWG5 has crap stats and you can make several thousand guns from one schematic so there's not much demand for those either.




all the Scythes schematics only allow you to make 2? I have never seen one that runs 4? as for your questions about the (white cubes) with yellow text. all cube that you loot in more then 1 the list always has the first one as yellow text with all the rest identical. I would not use white cubes in making this blade. If you want the best Blade you can get make sure that you proved the MWS with yellow cubes not white(and im not talking about the text of the cude. but the cube color, they come in green,red,yellow,white) you can not use looted geo sword cores in crafting this weapon as they craft of the sword requires 2 identical sword cores from a Crate. so unless you have looted a crate the other cords are just use for crafting such swords as 2-handed, 1-handed curved, Ryykk.




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Jedi_Titus
Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:49 am
#5






salatiousCrumb wrote:


all the Scythes schematics only allow you to make 2? I have never seen one that runs 4?






The schematic is 2 use like you've noticed. But if you succed in getting 6 identical geo cores you can make 2 scythes out of 1 schemaitc use. Thus 1 schematic 4 scythes.



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Or you can just take advantage of the exploit and make 10 scythes from 1 use like a few people on my server have done I hate that exploit, especially when people use it to make the honest smiths look greedy when we ask fora decent price on our non-exploited scythes.



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Nimus
Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:23 pm
#6


Do the sword cores to make the factory schematicbe indentical (same serial) as the cores used in the final production?
If not, do the sword cores to make the factoryschematic any diffrence? like, can i use crappy looted ones, and it will not affect the final?




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Osrid
Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:44 pm
#7



Nimus wrote:
Do the sword cores to make the factory schematic be indentical (same serial) as the cores used in the final production?
If not, do the sword cores to make the factory schematic any diffrence? like, can i use crappy looted ones, and it will not affect the final?





Yes same serial. As for the earlier post you can use looted cores in these as long as they have the same serial they don't have to be from a factory crate but same serial.

For example with some pistols you need more than one power handler, well you can pull handlers from the crate and still use them all that matters is that they have the same serial number.



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DarkBShadow
Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:50 pm
#8

ya as stated before you can use looted sword cores i've done it many times just need to be teh same serial number. however the reason most people dont use the looted cores is more likly then not the stats on them are worse then we can make with normal yellow cubes and normal solidifying agents. my cores normally come out to be 47 min 57-60 max i think that is about it have not made them in awhile.


but only way the looted cores wil be better is if you found some that have about thoughs stats. but they are very rare. i have only seena few cores out ofa thousands that i have seen have better stats then thecrafted kind.


also if your 6 identical cores are teh same serial then you can get 2 scythes from one of the schematic point.


so if your able to find 6 more identical or 7 cubes and 7 solidifying pastes then ya can get 4 scythes from one schematic.


hope that helps.




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