Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: The Agony!
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Sitorikku
Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:47 pm
#1
So I go out krayt hunting and loot 4 190+ max dmg -.39 speed tissues and go to have them crafted into a nice little E11 MK2. I was walked through the steps of experimentation by my guilds 12pt ws as he made the handles and the weapon- end result is... well, if it would have been a T21 people would be gushing tears at the scene... around 270dps w/ 99 sac (about 2.4 speed and 964 dmg) after a min speed error and a "amazing success" that took of one SAC point. I questioned the resources before the crafting precedure but they were standard, not too bad, certainly not to lead to this. If it wasnt a guildmate who had made it I would have probably accused the WS who did of stealing my tissues.
I hope you fellas in the WS industry get some sympothy from the devs, because it would really would be nice to have crafted weapons like those from Kashyyyk and those who restated from precurb well. I dont think anyone would argue with that- cept jedi. 
Orew
Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:02 pm
#2
For such tissues only the best is good enough. You should have used the services of a 12p WS with force experimentation andthe best resources available onyour server.
Sitorikku
Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:10 pm
#3
Like I said, it wasnt the resources. Appearently when the min speed error occured several exp points were taken and an extra +.1 speed was added. A CSR ticket has been writen if for nothing else but to have this issue investigated.
XobNoics
Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:42 pm
#4
Sitorikku wrote:
around 270dps w/ 99 sac (about 2.4 speed and 964 dmg) after a min speed error and a "amazing success" that took of one SAC point. I questioned the resources before the crafting precedure but they were standard, not too bad, certainly not to lead to this.
Those stats don't sound right. You should have capped max damage (or comeVERY close to it) at 1063 and the speed should be at least 0.20 lower. What's this min speed error you're talking about?
I crafted an E11 Mark2 with 170 tissues (and pre-nerf stock, so basically 210 damagetissues) and easily hit cap with 4 points left over. Something looks "off" on your weapon creation.
Dusk
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:35 am
#5
XobNoics wrote:
Sitorikku wrote:
around 270dps w/ 99 sac (about 2.4 speed and 964 dmg) after a min speed error and a "amazing success" that took of one SAC point. I questioned the resources before the crafting precedure but they were standard, not too bad, certainly not to lead to this.
Those stats don't sound right. You should have capped max damage (or comeVERY close to it) at 1063 and the speed should be at least 0.20 lower. What's this min speed error you're talking about?I crafted an E11 Mark2 with 170 tissues (and pre-nerf stock, so basically 210 damagetissues) and easily hit cap with 4 points left over. Something looks "off" on your weapon creation.
I agree. I used +140 tissues and a preCU stock and was able to cap damage with a couple points left over. Maybe the resources weren't really that decent ....
Ecnirp
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:38 am
#6
Ouch.... pretty sure I can hit that sort of DPS and SAC without tissues
Sitorikku
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:42 am
#7
Yes, I agree. I was expecting to be maxed out in damage and darn close in speed and sac. There was an "error" when experimenting on the speed. it was at 2.36 and said that it had reached the maximum rate for that line and then brought it up to 2.4.
Im going to try and get the CSRs to investigate if they will. This is beyond strange to me.
Rico4
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:44 am
#8
i used 176 tissues and got a moderate success 
still managed to get it back upto 1053max and 77sac (pre cu stock used but after damage mods have been removed) only thing i lost was prob around 30 min damage. with those 190 tissues you should be looking at alot better stats in at least one area-->Sac, speed, max damage, only thing i can think of is the WS got lazy and tried experimenting by say 3blocks at a time and got a moderate success on this, therefore was unable to recover.
i always experiment one point at a time when crafting enhanced weapons to ensure this never happens to me-with one moderate you can normally recover with an amazing.
Vade_WS
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:45 am
#9
Sounds like there was a critical failure.
Ask your WS if he was using Bespin Port. When building a weapon like this, if you don't have FS crafting, you *have* to use Bespin to avoid crit failures.
What a waste.
Ask your WS if he was using Bespin Port. When building a weapon like this, if you don't have FS crafting, you *have* to use Bespin to avoid crit failures.
What a waste.
Ecnirp
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:47 am
#10
Sitorikku wrote:
Yes, I agree. I was expecting to be maxed out in damage and darn close in speed and sac. There was an "error" when experimenting on the speed. it was at 2.36 and said that it had reached the maximum rate for that line and then brought it up to 2.4.
Im going to try and get the CSRs to investigate if they will. This is beyond strange to me.
You can get the E11 mk2 lower in speed than 2.36, I have seen a couple at 2.1 - it was more likely the Wound chance that was capped, I get that message a fair bit when I am experimenting. If speed went up sounds more like he had a "Moderate Success"
XobNoics
Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:57 am
#11
Like the rest of the guys said... probably a critical failure or "some" moderate successes. Speed doesn't cap at 2.3 as I've hit 2.04 with the capped E11.
Something isn't adding up and your WS isn't telling you what. Either heswapped them or he had bad experiments and is not telling you.
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