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Thread: need help from elder weaponsmiths
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rivvers
Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:39 am
#1
A friend asked me if making a t21 with min damage around 300 damage is possible. My current stats on my t21 is 179 min 409 max. What i really need to know is what stat on t21 resources effect min damage? I could care less about max damage at this point. I want all effort into min damage. Can anyone help me out with this issue? All the resources say they need 50% oq and cd for each stat,but if i put a t21 resource with very high ut would that give a higher min,higher cond,better range?
FreeEnterprise
Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:42 am
#2
min/max and speed are all tied to OQ/CD so no way to focus on min....
Zandergeef
Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:34 pm
#4
Ive seen interesting weapons made with looted exceptional barrels and other partsthat can add a good amount to min damage. I dont know if they could get it up to 300 before slice though. Plus the odds of finding some exceptional loot is not on your side.
Homer_J_S
Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:04 pm
#5
Hey, Rivver i was doing some homework and did some research for myself since I asked you the question. Here's what I can come up with. The only 2 things you can control Min damage with is the ABPH and the ABRB.
With the ABPH this is what you should use for resources.
Phola - Phrik aluminum
Jomate - Ostrine Carbonate ore
Ehifine - Diatium Copper
With the ABRB this is what you should use for resources.
Ewia - Rhodium Steel
Opep - Duralloy steel
Seesapine - Duranium Steel ( 400 days ago doubt anyone has some)
Hawerofa is a good alternative since it was only 90 days ago
Durotedsis - Ryll amorphous gem currently in shift.
The rest of the resources for T-21 should be normal stuff you're using.
Don't think it'll give you the 300 mark but should bump up some if you're not doing it with these resources already. Let say it'll give you a 200 min damage riffle and you get a 35% effective slice that should put the gun at270 min damage. With a min-30% pup it then put the gun at a 350 min damage. And if range mitigation not affecting the min damage that would be a really good AP-3 riffle.
Grisbilen
Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:32 pm
#6
Max using standard components would probably be around 180-185 using all perfect resouces for both components and final combine, so you need a looted barrel for this to be possible (or maybe 10 identical looted very good powerhandlers, but that seem not-so-very-likely)
Homer_J_S
Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:49 pm
#7
Thanks Ashiva,
Could you post some stats for the barrel and power handler I should be looking for?
Grisbilen
Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:58 pm
#8
standard advanced blaster rifle barrels are 11-11 (or 12-12 with really good resources)
standard advanced blaster power handlers are 21-42 (maybe 22-44 with really good resources)
So take 180 (for simplicity) and withdraw 11+21, that will give you 148, this is the base rifle min damage without powerhandlers or barrel
300-148 = 152
Or, as the rifle barrels seem to be easier to find as you only need one compared to the 10 identical powerhandlers you need, just subtract barrel damage:
base without barrel = 169 (180-11)
300-169 = 131
You need to find a blaster rifle barrel with 131 minimum damage to be able to make a T21 with 300 min damage
standard advanced blaster power handlers are 21-42 (maybe 22-44 with really good resources)
So take 180 (for simplicity) and withdraw 11+21, that will give you 148, this is the base rifle min damage without powerhandlers or barrel
300-148 = 152
Or, as the rifle barrels seem to be easier to find as you only need one compared to the 10 identical powerhandlers you need, just subtract barrel damage:
base without barrel = 169 (180-11)
300-169 = 131
You need to find a blaster rifle barrel with 131 minimum damage to be able to make a T21 with 300 min damage
Homer_J_S
Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:33 pm
#9
I guess 300 min damage is way out of reach but, 200 min damage is still attainable?
FreeEnterprise
Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:18 am
#10
Solarstryder wrote:
with Krayt tissues (set of 11) and a dmg slice maybe
krayt tissues only enhance max damage, do nothing for min.
ShugFlurry
Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:33 am
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FreeEnterprise wrote:
Solarstryder wrote:with Krayt tissues (set of 11) and a dmg slice maybe
krayt tissues only enhance max damage, do nothing for min.
Ditto
I don't know of anything myself that could enhance min. Maybe loot BPH... but normally theyre junk
You can get 5 better than normal with themepark but thats not going to get you close to 300
Ben3215
Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:22 pm
#12
I don't think 200 min is possible with basic resources. Maybe with some good Krayt tissues, but I am not sure. Remember that when most people ask you to make a weapon that has specific damage, they often have never played a crafter, much less a WS. I had one guy come up to me and demand that I make him a Stun Baton with some outrageous damage and impossible speed. After I explained to him that it wasn't possible, he proceeded to "inform" me that it was possible and I had no Idea about WS. Your best bet is, if you feel such a weapon cannot be made, to tell someone that it cannot be made with the resources currently available. That always works for me. Not that I have strayed off the topic a bit, lol.
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