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My apologies if I'm being really slow here.......

But, I may have finally found out what the crafting station bonus actually does.

I was under the impression for a while, that a better crafting station bonus helped you to achieve more "great/amazing" successes during the experimentation procedure.

I was somewhat dismayed when my +25 station seemed to give me worse results than the public one!

The last thing I made on my +25 station was an advprojectile feed mechansim as I had run out and had to craft one from scratch. I got all great succeses andit came out at 0-31 damage, -0.54 speed, which was like normal.

After persuading my colleague to take time out from his busy architect schedule, I persuaded him to make me a new crafting station, which he did. I now have a +38.5 crafting station. I then created a manufactuing schematic for some Adv projectile feed mechanisms on the new station. I used exactly the same resources, got exactly the same number of great successes and they came out at 0-36 damage, -0.70 speed! The only thing that changed was my crafting station bonus.

So, maybe, thats what it does!

I dont know...ive noticed no change since i got a +43. I would think that the tool and station affect your actual assembly bonus, which determines getting a Critical fail on assembly...experimentation I would think is only using your Experimentation Skill.

However, Ive heard rumbling and would like to test whether Malleability affects the success rates of your Experimentation. If you have 2 metals one of 900+ Mall and one of <100 Mall see how your successes turn out when experimenting on something like Projectile Rifle Barrels or something...Im going to test this at some point...

In fact, I didn't see any different between a -10 or 41+ crafting station, both weapon quality or success rate. All I noticeis the Moderate/Good shown much more than before after the patch last week.

Hmmm....

I will try to make a few more things.......I only got the chance to make feed mechs last night.

I'll see if I get an "across the board" improvement.

From my own experience and seeing what everybody else on the forum has experienced (and there have been extensive trials done), the crafting tool/station bonus has absolutely no effect on either assembly or experimentation successes.

The thought about malleability playing a role had entered my mind too. I think this is A) a more plausible way to affect successes and B) Malleability has to do something!.

When I get time out from sales.....I'll play around a little more.

I'll keep you posted

Adv PFM is probably the worst item to base any assumptions on because the schematic is so broken. I went from a -12 to an 8 to a 32 station, and I saw no change in stats on any item and no noticeable effect on failure/experimentation rates.

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Spectre486 wrote:

The last thing I made on my +25 station was an advprojectile feed mechansim as I had run out and had to craft one from scratch. I got all great succeses andit came out at 0-31 damage, -0.54 speed, which was like normal.

After persuading my colleague to take time out from his busy architect schedule, I persuaded him to make me a new crafting station, which he did. I now have a +38.5 crafting station. I then created a manufactuing schematic for some Adv projectile feed mechanisms on the new station. I used exactly the same resources, got exactly the same number of great successes and they came out at 0-36 damage, -0.70 speed! The only thing that changed was my crafting station bonus.

So, maybe, thats what it does!

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Joon,

I think you just experienced the "Amazing Success" bug that has been talked about here. I too have experienced it on an Advanced Blade Vibro Unit. First one I ever made was 10 higher damage and .4 faster than any I have ever made since. If I had known it was so good, I would have made a schematic. As it was I used it in a VK which crit failed
Seems that every now and then, stats just turn out heaps better for no reason. Same ingredients, same stations, same units.

I think it is the Experimental system messing up again. the second one probibly was a higher percentage then the first and it just didnt show it. Keep up the thoughts thought, a better quality crafting station must do something.