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Thread: Get ready to Focus on SAC first and foremost when crafting

ThargarOtherland
Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:57 am
#1

Now i am still a New Weaponsmith compared to most on this forum, only been doing it for a few months if that. But i have a MBH/MR toon and already understood that SAC is key first, but i will supect that a lot more players will be figuring that out real soon with the new Ai in the high level MOBs. Right now i always get the SAC as low as i can on all crafted item, Pistols in the low 70s, carbine low 80s and rifles high 80s for none enhanced weapons and the rest in damage. I sell these pretty good, but i expect they will start selling like mad in the next few days as there is a awakening by players that realize specials is what they will need to use to take down the higher MOBs now and Action is very important.


I am willing to bet those high damage high sac weapons take look real good are going to sit on that vendor for a while now.



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flounder05
Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:07 am
#2

I only do loot made, so capping sac, if possible, is priority 1. When I make unenhanced weapons for guildies, I cap sac on them also, then focus on damage. Unless they specifically ask for something else.



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RingSting_IOM
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:16 am
#3


When crafting Carbs and Rifles I always cap on SAC as soon as I make the weapon so I dont need to use experimentation on them. Then do damage and put the rest in speed. I cant imagine why anyone else would put expermentation in anything else on componants as the return is useless.


On pistols I tend to cap damage and then go for sac with my 4 or five spare points so can get down to 68-72





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Ecnirp
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:33 am
#4






ThargarOtherland wrote:

Now i am still a New Weaponsmith compared to most on this forum, only been doing it for a few months if that. But i have a MBH/MR toon and already understood that SAC is key first, but i will supect that a lot more players will be figuring that out real soon with the new Ai in the high level MOBs. Right now i always get the SAC as low as i can on all crafted item, Pistols in the low 70s, carbine low 80s and rifles high 80s for none enhanced weapons and the rest in damage. I sell these pretty good, but i expect they will start selling like mad in the next few days as there is a awakening by players that realize specials is what they will need to use to take down the higher MOBs now and Action is very important.


I am willing to bet those high damage high sac weapons take look real good are going to sit on that vendor for a while now.





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Nurmal
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:45 am
#5

so the most important thing in Power Hammers r SAC too right?



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Ecnirp
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:55 am
#6






Nurmal wrote:
so the most important thing in Power Hammers r SAC too right?





For some people, others like Damage - usually good to get a balance between the 2 or offer 2 versions of a weapon.
Nurmal
Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:28 am
#7

now ic, but the Uber ones r capped right? the ones w/o the geo loot or acklay bones cant be capped, that is the PH´s that have to find a balance or be offered 2 versions of it,i think...



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Anarchicgorilla
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:40 am
#8


I have both MBH and crafter too.


And while the masses worship sac...I often wonder if they have actually done valid in game testing.




I will not turn this to a debate... but can say that I have tested about every kind of weapon in the game.



I make double capped weapons (sac and dmg) all the time and they sell very well.




The weapon I crafted for my alt is also dble capped (speed and dmg) I run a ranged placed macro and use speed pups.



I never have my sac move in combat below 88% with food, and can tell you that laying out a ranged shot then placed shot every single second has given me a better game play DPS then using any string or combo of specials with a sac capped weapon.



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flounder05
Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:05 am
#9

Try that without the macro once. And in PvP.



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Anarchicgorilla
Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:26 am
#10



very simply



2 button ranged placed




press each buttion back to back



my alt 1630 pvp rating using exactly what i said.... and by the way that is only from jedi hunts





And by the way thats what macros are for...

Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 10-21-2005 11:27 AM



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flounder05
Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:37 am
#11

by the way, that's how the speed bug is used. The macro part of it anyways.

Message Edited by flounder05 on 10-21-2005 11:37 AM



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Anarchicgorilla
Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:48 am
#12

the speed bug was this...


/rangedshot


/criticalshot



What this would do is take your 2nd shot and let it shot back to back bypasing the cool down timer



I say this now and never before BECAUSE PUBLISH 24 FIXED THIS!!!!



However, from your replies I can see you have no clue to as how the cool down timers work for each shot and how your modifid speed effects that.




I will jsut say this... with a modifed speed at .76 or lower... you can shot ranged shot and placed shot back to back every second both with the macro and without.



The exploit was bypasing the cooldown timer for the same shot back to back.... shooting ranged shot then placed shot... is not this.





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flounder05
Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:50 am
#13

yes I have no clue. I never did any testing of different shots on my own. Please don't try to tell me what I do and do not know.



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