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Ok, here is how this goes:

Resource experiment is 66/33

Resource #1 is 765/916=807.18

Resource #2 is 737/969=806.19

Resource #3 is 797/802=790.68

Which one produces the best results? If you answer #1, then #2, then #3 you would be 100% WRONG! in fact, and after multiple tests with everything else held exactly equal, #3 is the winner producing at least 1 point more in min / max damage then either #1 or #2.

Is this a bug? I mean crafting weapons is nasty enough now with all the loot dominated stuff we put up with, but if I have to go back and actually test every single resource to see if it behaves the way it should,... Well, Houston we have a problem.

Or, did I miss a post some where that explained that 66/33 actually means 80/20? I'm using 80/20 because working backward that is the only way you can make #3 come out better then both #1 and #2.

Note, I'm not "mad" just concerned that this may apply to more then just this one case, and even if it doesn't it's a bug that really needs to be corrected.

Johnny-Umah
Weaponsmith
Kaadara, Nabbo, Chilastra 3717,5920
American by Birth but Southern by the Grace of God

I assume you are making abphs. Here is some info for you related to weightings:

I was involved in this thread proving how weightings were done. If you do the formulas for abphs this is about the numbers you get. This person has some rounding differences but nothing major.

Here is the original thread with my experiment and the info below being on page 2.

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CD: 66% total

Diatium = 25.35%
Phrik = 40.56%

OQ:33% total

Polymer = 7.5%
Diatium = 3.75%
Ore = 3.75%
Phrik = 6%
Gas = 12%

Ok ... so it's off by a few hundreths of a percent due to rounding ... but that is the long and short of how the resources affects the overall outcome.

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When you run the numbers you will see 3 = 371, 2 = 357, and 1 = 365, so 3 > 1 > 2.

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Thank you! I knew I had to be doing something wrong. These numbers look pretty accurate, so now I'll have to build a tool that lets me calculate the actual values so I don't make this mistake again.

Johnny-Umah
Weaponsmith
Kaadara, Nabbo, Chilastra 3717,5920
American by Birth but Southern by the Grace of God

Correct, but this will also apply to any of the 66/33's.

Johnny-Umah
Weaponsmith
Kaadara, Nabbo, Chilastra 3717,5920
American by Birth but Southern by the Grace of God

This can apply to all schematics if they possess resources that call for a stat that is not present in that resource.

In abphs the ore, polymer, and gas do not have conductivity and therefore those units are removed out of the calculations which give the diatium and phrik a huge weighting.

Another example is if you are putting together XG Mines on the final assembly they take chemical, metal, and steeland stats that are important are SR and UT. If you use polymer which possesses both those stats, you actually get worse results than if you used any lub. oil because the oil does not possess SR or UT and is removed from the weightings. When using the oil this takes the chemical's 2 units out of the calculation giving more weight to the 8 units of metal and 3 of steel.

_Posli on Talus near Dearic: Master Weaponsmith (+29 Exp / +24 Asm)
_____My Current Weapons Menu_____
Miner / Master Pistoleer / Merchant
--Talus Arch Tech and Architect Vendors--
Just use /waypoint 1525 -2700 once on Talus, look for the Arch