Weaponsmith Archive

• ExperimentFULLY on speed.

Finaly Product:

• Experiment 8 pnts into dmg and 2 pnts into speed. *NOTE* This is for 10pnt Weaponsmiths.

After trying this on FWG5 pistols instead of doing full speed on components and full DMG on final product, I got the DPS to 5 more.

Hope this helps!

But what did your Action costs look like on these items?

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as long as the sac is below about 125 players have little problem managing their action pool.At least thats my opinion

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SirPurple wrote:

Havn't tried it on all subcomps, but at least this works with adv BPH's.

Regarding SAC, I agree as this can be fairly well negotiated with food, buffs and pup's while dmg - to my knowledge - only can be sorted using Pups. Thing is many ppl don't use or can't be arsed to use a proper "buff cocktail" and hence ask for low SAC weapons. It's up to us WS's to educate 'em

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no such thing as a buff cocktail no more tho, cant stack similar food types, so the max regen u can now get for action is a doc buff , +200 from a food and +20% from a spice , i still run shy on action with all three of these .

i focus on dps firstly, but always make sure i knock some sac points off

Message Edited by Willbaby on 06-01-2005 06:13 AM

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zaren_vendu wrote:
as long as the sac is below about 125 players have little problem managing their action pool. At least thats my opinion

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I've found that most elite level players want SAC below 100.

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Vade_WS wrote:

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zaren_vendu wrote:
as long as the sac is below about 125 players have little problem managing their action pool. At least thats my opinion

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I've found that most elite level players want SAC below 100.

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really? most on my server want a pistol and a carbine below 80 and a rifle below 90.

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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Vade_WS wrote:

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zaren_vendu wrote:
as long as the sac is below about 125 players have little problem managing their action pool. At least thats my opinion

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I've found that most elite level players want SAC below 100.

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really? most on my server want a pistol and a carbine below 80 and a rifle below 90.

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Yes, but by "below" 100, I also meant 80 & 90 too. I guess I could have said that "most elite players won't even look at a weapon if the SAC is over 100", but that isn't very accurate either since Commandos are stuck with high SAC weapons.

In any case, I try and make my "generic" weapons as balanced as possible, with a SAC below 100. Most elites have specific stat requests. Those that want SAC below 80 or 90 are OK with trading some of the max damage to do so.

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zaren_vendu wrote:
as long as the sac is below about 125 players have little problem managing their action pool. At least thats my opinion

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I dunno about you but I have an 84SAC FWG5, and I run out of action. I am of course cycling my specials.

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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Vade_WS wrote:

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zaren_vendu wrote:
as long as the sac is below about 125 players have little problem managing their action pool. At least thats my opinion

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I've found that most elite level players want SAC below 100.

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really? most on my server want a pistol and a carbine below 80 and a rifle below 90.

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Wow. All mine hang near 100

Well just from a little test I ran with some DL44 XT's. Here is what I came up with:

1. DL44 XT All parts for speed - 369-777 @1.97 290 DPS


2. DL44 XT all parts Damage - 386-788 @2.15 273 DPS


3. DL44 XT Damage Experimented ABPH, Speed Experimented Barrel - 380-783 @2.1 279 DPS


4. DL44 XT Speed Experimented ABPH, Damage Experimented Barrel - 379-782 @2.02 287 DPS

With 12 points to play with most, it normally went 9 points into the one line and left over points going back into speed or damage depending which line was done first. (i.e. 9 points speed, 3 points damage.) And on final assembly all point went in to damge and left over points into speed.