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Thread: which formfitted stocks are any good?

hossp
Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:59 am
#1

i picked some up form the tedious imp themepark min dam 25, max 35 ,attack speed -0.5 (yes there is a minus)...was wondering if these were any good...i'd appreciate a rating,anywhere from crap to uber--


also i have 4 rancor teeth with damage of 93, the highest i've ever looted, opinions on those?


thanx in advance



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JoleneArcher
Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:01 am
#2

Well the speed i nice of course of them, but the damage on my crafted ones is currently at 36/36 so they are a bit better there.



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Woodis
Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:04 am
#3

These are very nice to use to special heavy weapons such as FT and LLCs, they accompany krayt tissues very nicely on these weapons. They almost make great carbines as carbineers struggle for speed. The 10 or so loss of damage is well made up for by the -.5 gained in speed, on top of the speed you're saving by not adding your own stock. I pay up to 100k each for these on my server.


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Hurlobacca
Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:26 am
#4






JoleneArcher wrote:
Well the speed i nice of course of them, but the damage on my crafted ones is currently at 36/36 so they are a bit better there.






Let's see...taking a laser carb as an example, let's say your stats on a standard crafted laser carb are 3.8 81-317 (my current stats minus 4 min/max based on your stocks) and for a carbine crafted with the FF stock they are 3.0 70-311. At +65 carbine speed the FF carb will outdamage 592 dps for Full Auto Single Twoto 488 dps for standard crafted. At +75 speed the FF carb will will do 829 dps vs. 683 for standard crafted. At +80 speed the FF carbine does 1036 dps to 854 for standard crafted. At +85 speed, the standard crafted carbine finally gains enough additional speed to outdamage the FF Stock carbine 1104 to 1057.


By lowering speed for non speed capped you are actually increasing the damage dealt even if at first glance the numbers look a bit smaller. You must also take into account the fact that the FF stock has no ham costs so for my stocks that's 28/28/28 less ham to the final build, and the FF stock also gives an ideal range mod that is better than crafted, increasing the likelihood to hit. So not only will your fire more rapidly giving youa betterchance to land states, you'll also hit your target more often.


Obviously FF stocks are too expensive and hard to get to use in production weapons, but if a player would benefit from a faster ranged weapon, then FF stocks are a great way to go, especially when used in conjunction on weapons like the FT and LLC.




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meediummshoww
Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:04 am
#5






Hurlobacca wrote:





JoleneArcher wrote:
Well the speed i nice of course of them, but the damage on my crafted ones is currently at 36/36 so they are a bit better there.






Let's see...taking a laser carb as an example, let's say your stats on a standard crafted laser carb are 3.8 81-317 (my current stats minus 4 min/max based on your stocks) and for a carbine crafted with the FF stock they are 3.0 70-311. At +65 carbine speed the FF carb will outdamage 592 dps for Full Auto Single Twoto 488 dps for standard crafted. At +75 speed the FF carb will will do 829 dps vs. 683 for standard crafted. At +80 speed the FF carbine does 1036 dps to 854 for standard crafted. At +85 speed, the standard crafted carbine finally gains enough additional speed to outdamage the FF Stock carbine 1104 to 1057.


By lowering speed for non speed capped you are actually increasing the damage dealt even if at first glance the numbers look a bit smaller. You must also take into account the fact that the FF stock has no ham costs so for my stocks that's 28/28/28 less ham to the final build, and the FF stock also gives an ideal range mod that is better than crafted, increasing the likelihood to hit. So not only will your fire more rapidly giving youa betterchance to land states, you'll also hit your target more often.


Obviously FF stocks are too expensive and hard to get to use in production weapons, but if a player would benefit from a faster ranged weapon, then FF stocks are a great way to go, especially when used in conjunction on weapons like the FT and LLC.







great post! That's right on the money. They make nice T21's as well.



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Fodder650
Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:43 am
#6

One of the main things about these is no HAM costs. So its a free upgrade to a weapon without a downside



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Loriena
Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:21 pm
#7


hossp wrote:
i picked some up form the tedious imp themepark min dam 25, max 35 ,attack speed -0.5 (yes there is a minus)...was wondering if these were any good...i'd appreciate a rating,anywhere from crap to uber--
also i have 4 rancor teeth with damage of 93, the highest i've ever looted, opinions on those?
thanx in advance





1. All form-fitted stocks have the same stats, there is no good or bad, they are all the same.

2. Form-fitted stocks are very good to use for weapons which need additional speed like flamer etc. since the stock reduces speed instead of increasing it just like normal stocks. And they don't have HAM costs, which is also a factor for some carbines...

3. There is a rule of thumb for rancor teeth: below 100 maximum damage is bad, above is good. Yours are on the edge, the speed needs to be as near 0 as possible to make your teeth usable. I have seen and bought several teeth above 100, so they really exist...

Message Edited by Loriena on 12-25-2004 08:24 PM

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