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Thread: Fraud

SdeWndr
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:14 pm
#1

I'm sure I'm going to get flamed for this and even one starred... but this chapps my arse.


I was cruising through coro a little while ago and noticed a guy spaming "Master Slicing for 3K". This is fine but... He had the title of "Slicer" on him. I checked his bio realy quick and he was not a master. He had a bout 5 people around him waiting for orders.


I worked hard for my Master Smuggler tag, and I work even harder to make myself keep it. It really annoys me when people pull this kind of crap.


I sent him a PM and asked him if he was a Master Smuggler... He replied "yes". I challenged him and let him know it wasn't in his bio and he replied "well I have 4 boxes.. its only a 5 percent difference".


When I told him he needed to take that out of his spam... he replied "or else?".


I really don't know what to do.. I'm so tempted to post his name.



((((( SdeWndr Thalenn )))))
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PillowTech
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:22 pm
#2

I five starred ya and I too think that what he was doing was wrong but in his defence everyone getting slices from him could have, just as easily as you did, looked at his bio.

Message Edited by PillowTech on 09-15-2004 03:23 PM



26 August 2003 - Devs make their first detailed promise to overhaul the Smuggler profession.

27 September 2004 (03:10 PM) - Smuggler_Caylin tells fellow smugglers that he is stepping down as Smuggler Correspondent.

23 November 2004 - PillowTech switches to World of Warcraft.
SdeWndr
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:29 pm
#3

most people don't though.. and ur right... they could of. im thinking of posting his name because of the replies he made to me. he all but admitted he was decieving people.



((((( SdeWndr Thalenn )))))
Imperial Deserter - Rebel Conspirator
Master Teras Kasi N Master Fencer N Master Brawler N Force Sensitive
Drop off auction winings at DTF Mall Outside MO @ -1115, 2371(Doobies Collectibles)
PillowTech
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:37 pm
#4



SdeWndr wrote:
im thinking of posting his name because of the replies he made to me. he all but admitted he was decieving people.



Post it on the Naritus Galaxy Board. That way more people from you galaxy will see it. Thats if you do post it.



26 August 2003 - Devs make their first detailed promise to overhaul the Smuggler profession.

27 September 2004 (03:10 PM) - Smuggler_Caylin tells fellow smugglers that he is stepping down as Smuggler Correspondent.

23 November 2004 - PillowTech switches to World of Warcraft.
TomoRainer
Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:00 pm
#5

Hey, he's doing a disservice to the entire smuggler community here. With none of our slicing abilities documented in-game, anyone who misrepresents it is only going to further confuse one of the murkier skills in the galaxy.

I say GET THE ROPE!

AND THE TALL TREE FROM WHICH TO TIE THE ROPE AND THUSLY HANG HIM!







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SpinningCloud
Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:52 pm
#6

Five Stars from me also. It is dishonest plain and simple and it DOES make a difference to customers, though if I were a customer I'd ask him to display his Master title.




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Nerro
Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:32 pm
#7

SdeWndr--


I'm completely with you. Drives me crazy when Slicers try to pass off as a Master Smuggler. Usually when I see a slicer doing that and spamming that they're a master, I'll send 'em an tell and try to get them to stop with the false advertising. If they don't cooperate,I'll write up my own macro stating "Get the best possible slice with a Master Smugger -- Make sure you see the TITLE!" and steal all their business. Helps pass around the awareness, and it sure pisses the other guy off!



Nerro Elyst
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l We must always have old memories and young hopes. l
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lurdanta
Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:32 pm
#8

Five stars from me, this guy is a fraud and you should expose him. We all work hard for the title and at the very least he should too. I like the idea of setting up business next to him spaming people to check the bio for the title to make sure the person's a master.

SdeWndr
Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:42 pm
#9

Thanks guys.. I'm still debating on whether to post his name in the Naritus forums. I have a post in ther titled "Fraud" if you would like to read the comments from people.



((((( SdeWndr Thalenn )))))
Imperial Deserter - Rebel Conspirator
Master Teras Kasi N Master Fencer N Master Brawler N Force Sensitive
Drop off auction winings at DTF Mall Outside MO @ -1115, 2371(Doobies Collectibles)
Isleh
Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:11 pm
#10






SdeWndr wrote:

Thanks guys.. I'm still debating on whether to post his name in the Naritus forums. I have a post in ther titled "Fraud" if you would like to read the comments from people.







I swear, they let anybody be a smuggler these days


I has a similar problem. I get a tell asking for containers to be opened. I reply saying the I'm willing but I'll charge and that they should take the containers to a novice since that is the only way they can get slicing XP. They replied that they did and that the novice smuggler ruined 2 out of 3 containers. So, being flush with cash from the a big sale of crates of.... spare speeder parts, I ask for the the guys name with the intent of buying the novice some clamps so they can get the experience.


I send this guy a tell....


ME: you know at novice you can still use clamps.
NOVICE SMUGGLER(NS): duh!
ME: just talked to somebody who said you ruined 2 out of 3 of their containers. if you know that you can use clamps, why didn't you?
NS: I was out and I'm getting a friend to make some more.


It ended with me thinking that the novice smuggler in question was a poor reflection on the profession and me not buying them any clamps at all. I sliced the remaining containers for free. Turns out that the novice smuggler never mentioned that they were out of clamps until handing the ruined containers back.

Retroalias
Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:13 pm
#11



PillowTech wrote:
I five starred ya and I too think that what he was doing was wrong but in his defence everyone getting slices from him could have, just as easily as you did, looked at his bio.

Message Edited by PillowTech on 09-15-2004 03:23 PM





You are right, but it burns me when players try to mislead other players. When he spams Master slicing 3K, I believe he is intentionaly attepting to mislead the other players. And that makes me mad.



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Retroalias
Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:14 pm
#12



PillowTech wrote:


SdeWndr wrote:
im thinking of posting his name because of the replies he made to me. he all but admitted he was decieving people.



Post it on the Naritus Galaxy Board. That way more people from you galaxy will see it. Thats if you do post it.




Very sound thinking



SIN INC

SMUGGLER OUTFITTER

Tatooine 3556 -3620 (Mos Eisley)

Retroalias
Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:31 pm
#13

ME: you know at novice you can still use clamps.
NOVICE SMUGGLER (NS): duh!
ME: just talked to somebody who said you ruined 2 out of 3 of their containers. if you know that you can use clamps, why didn't you?
NS: I was out and I'm getting a friend to make some more.

It ended with me thinking that the novice smuggler in question was a poor reflection on the profession and me not buying them any clamps at all. I sliced the remaining containers for free. Turns out that the novice smuggler never mentioned that they were out of clamps until handing the ruined containers back.






I get this all the time when dealing with new smugs. I have 3 goals in dealing with them. 1) Get them to always use clamps. When a noob ruins containers - it reflets poorly on the profession 2) Have all smugglers treat the customers fairly. That means educating the customer as much as required. 3) To put a stop to ignorance concerning our prof. This means getting smugs to stop spaming dishonesty (like high quality tools gets better slices).

I routinely give new smuggler tools, locked containers and as much information that I can provide. But in recent weeks my patience has been tested. I've seen my generosity taken for granted, or maybe it's stupidity on my part. Yesterday I offered to sell a novice smugg all of the tools he needed to get slicing 4 at cost. He scoffed at the offer saying he could do better. Another recent development is that I've had a few new smugs wanting me to make them clamp schems. Sorry, but even asking that pisses me off. Anyway, I guess I will stop the venting now.

Trebor
MS, Intrepid



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SMUGGLER OUTFITTER

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