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Thread: Why I make grenades
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Decadent
Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:38 am
#1
Hello Weaponsmiths of SWG,
I always wanted to be a WS from launch however after 1 month playing SWG I left the game (puter issues). I came back4 months ago and became a WS and am loving the game and the career. As the WS market was satutated I concentrated on making grenades after spending a few days visiting every weapons vendor on Coronet and only finding a handfull of grenades at extremly high prices (I play on Valcyn). Now I have 3 - 4 factories totaly devoted to making grenades,I raise my prices anduse lesser quailty resources each run and I still sell out. C12's and C22's are the biggest sellers with a full factory run of 40 crates selling out in under3 days and I feel guilty for having my prices so high. Even if I was just selling a full run of C12's every 3 days at 20k a crate thats almost 2 million a week in sales. The best WS on each server canprobally make that much a day if not more but I dont advertise in game andI dont post anything on the trade forums, and like these guys I have more money than I can think what to do with (note to self, buy WS tapes). I know of one person who buys my grenades and re-sells them on the bazaar but this just gives me more customers seeking more grenades which pushes up demand even more. I can see why most WS dont make grenades, they take many factory runs and the profit margin may be lower but if you are a new WS and concentrate on grenadeswith littleeffort you will be making the money to help fund your climb to the top of the WS tree.
Why do you you make, or not make grenades?
Fodder650
Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:19 am
#2
I admit it Im a grenadesmith to. Thursday night i had a 31 crate sales night and last night I had one customer getting 25 crates. My prices arent the lowest on the server by about 9k and when I was 15k high i sold out to. I have been making custom runs of higher end grenades as well. Now i am using good materials and averaging 200-850 on my C12's and 300-1500 on my C22's. Which may be bringing my customers back and, at 10 points, I up the range modifier once as well. But I admit my 200-700's sold as well so quality doesnt matter I guess.
Now my factory runs are in the thousands. Thanks to help from my guild I'm running 14 factories and have had all of them going full tilt several times. Matter of fact 12 are running right now between grenades and parts for my PSG's. Everytime I think I can pull back on grenades i get a bunch of new sales. I even try to keep 60 crates on my vendor. It's amazing and its nice to see that the jedi grinders arent the main part of the economy again
They just switched from buying resources to buying grenades for the grind.
20 million in sales and climbing in 3 weeks
Now my factory runs are in the thousands. Thanks to help from my guild I'm running 14 factories and have had all of them going full tilt several times. Matter of fact 12 are running right now between grenades and parts for my PSG's. Everytime I think I can pull back on grenades i get a bunch of new sales. I even try to keep 60 crates on my vendor. It's amazing and its nice to see that the jedi grinders arent the main part of the economy again
They just switched from buying resources to buying grenades for the grind.20 million in sales and climbing in 3 weeks
Message Edited by Fodder650 on 10-18-2004 08:21 AM
Karok69
Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:59 am
#3
Well I play on corbantis and I am doing the jedi grind with my alt so I only make nades for me and 2 other rl friends. Yesterday I ran out of nades and as Im out of crism and none has spawned in quit a while I decided to just go buy some nades. What I saw blew my mind a WS was selling protons for 175k and c-12's for 70k I cant remember any of the other prices but to me this is crazy. Now I have been a ws since the begining and I have never had a vendor the only people I craft forare guildmates and a few friends but I am force sensitive and a 12 point. As soon as I get the crism I need Im going to start crafting nades and sell them for a resonable price and maybe with running 6 factories I can force some of the people to drop thier prices I dont care about the millions most weaponsmiths have but I do care about people not getting screwed over. Now Im not going to give them away mind you But the prices are crazy.
Karok 12 point force sensitive MWS -- TKDS
Corbantis
Decadent
Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:13 am
#4
Wow, those are some crazy prices. I dont think I have reached the limit I could go to with my grenade prices but I am content to stick to my current price. I felt so quilty when I was sent an email the other day from someone saying they bought a grenade of mine off the bazaar and wanted to know where my vendor was. I have never sold my grenades on the bazaar but I know someone is making a larger profit than me off my work so why shouldnt I put my prices up?
Karok69
Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:02 am
#5
Well Decadent if you dont mind me asking what do you sell cause I have no idea what is a fair price I just know 175k isnt I know servers and all that but I was thinking of 90K protons, 90k thermals, and 35k C-12's does that sound about right to everyone else ??
Fodder650
Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:04 am
#6
I have heard of the 175k crates. But thats an uninformed client and its also a very slow vendor. Price wise I started my C12's at 35k a crate and sold 100 crates. I lowered it to 29k and really have seen the jump in sales because of it. The lowest on our server is 20k a crate for C12's. But i havent looked at the numbers.
C22's were 40k to start and are now at 35k to stay in line with my C12 drop. Thermals were 70k to start since i had no clue what i was doing and are now at 55k but im likely to drop them again. I bid on a proton contract and won at 55k. But if I had to do it again i might have balked on that price. Since it requires 4 factory runs and crism to make decent ones (question mine were 1500-3000 is this normal for protons?). Im selling Cyrobans at 35k a crate since I dont see many others on the market and honestly i doubt they'll sell.
C22's were 40k to start and are now at 35k to stay in line with my C12 drop. Thermals were 70k to start since i had no clue what i was doing and are now at 55k but im likely to drop them again. I bid on a proton contract and won at 55k. But if I had to do it again i might have balked on that price. Since it requires 4 factory runs and crism to make decent ones (question mine were 1500-3000 is this normal for protons?). Im selling Cyrobans at 35k a crate since I dont see many others on the market and honestly i doubt they'll sell.
jefdenbeffer
Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:27 am
#7
C12: 62.5k for 25
C22: 87.5k for 25
Cryoban: 62.5k for 25
Imperial Detonator: 225k for 25
Thermal Detonator: 175k for 25
Proton Grenade: 200k for 25
Cryoban: 75k for 25
Glop: 87.5k for 25
Grenade Powerups: 6k for a crate of 10
Mine Powerups: 6k for a crate of 10
Rocket Launchers: 75k a piece
DRX Mines: 187.5k for 25
that's about my pricing and it's goin fast on the C12, C22, Imperial, Thermal and Proton
Glop and Cryoban aren't so widely used but I'm waiting till they drop out of vendor to change their prices a little
Message Edited by jefdenbeffer on 10-18-2004 07:32 PM
Fodder650
Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:35 am
#8
Ok out of curiousity how many do you sell a week at those prices?
jefdenbeffer
Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:52 am
#9
hm
i make about 4 full factory runs of C12 a week just not to run out and haven't had to place any from stockroom to vendor again
I tend to lose count, my 2nd full factory run of TD, ID and Proton in 3 weeks is now half sold
Can't complain, I also don't see the point in selling weapons for under 40 cpu, it's easier to sell the resources if u're gonna sell your grenades for only 10-15 cpu
But I guess in the last 3 weeks around 30-35 million total or so
Message Edited by jefdenbeffer on 10-18-2004 07:54 PM
jefdenbeffer
Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:55 am
#11
lol, I just sold an entire factory batch of C12 (40 crates) to 1 guy
this is taking on massive proportions
HAWKE61
Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:02 am
#12
I have been making and selling grenades since May of 03. The past 2 weeks i have made profits close to 15 mil selling c12's, 22's thermals and protons
To be honest i cant's keep up with demand even using 15 equip factories. Just too much running around and not much fun doing it. But i will persevere
These are my stats and prices
c-12 2.6 spd 212-899 priced at 37.5k per crate but lowered to 30k lots ofcompetition here now
22's 3.6 spd 336-1571 37.5k per crate
Thermal detonators 896-1852 3.2 spd +9@21m 50k per crate
Protons 1614-3241 4.9 spd +5@10m 75k per crate
A new poly just shifted in 850 something oq but 991 dr WOOT so my stats will definately go up quite a bit
HAWKE ENTERPRISES
HAUKERS WEAPONRY & MUNITIONS
UTILIZING 12 PTS OF EXPERIMENTATION
SHADOWFIRE, POLIS, NABOO -165, 5095
PURVEYORS OF ARCHITECTURAL EQUIPMENT
FINE RESOURCES, OLD & NEW
ATTACHMENTS AND LOOT
HIGH QUALITY STIM E'S LOW MED USE
SPECIAL ORDERS ACCEPTED WITH PLEASURE
HAWKES RESOURCES
jefdenbeffer
Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:37 am
#13
HAWKE61 wrote:
I have been making and selling grenades since May of 03. The past 2 weeks i have made profits close to 15 mil selling c12's, 22's thermals and protons
To be honest i cant's keep up with demand even using 15 equip factories. Just too much running around and not much fun doing it. But i will persevere
These are my stats and prices
c-12 2.6 spd 212-899 priced at 37.5k per crate but lowered to 30k lots ofcompetition here now
22's 3.6 spd 336-1571 37.5k per crate
Thermal detonators 896-1852 3.2 spd +9@21m 50k per crate
Protons 1614-3241 4.9 spd +5@10m 75k per crate
A new poly just shifted in 850 something oq but 991 dr WOOT so my stats will definately go up quite a bit
HAWKE ENTERPRISES
HAUKERS WEAPONRY & MUNITIONS
UTILIZING 12 PTS OF EXPERIMENTATION
SHADOWFIRE, POLIS, NABOO -165, 5095
PURVEYORS OF ARCHITECTURAL EQUIPMENT
FINE RESOURCES, OLD & NEW
ATTACHMENTS AND LOOT
HIGH QUALITY STIM E'S LOW MED USE
SPECIAL ORDERS ACCEPTED WITH PLEASURE
HAWKES RESOURCES
u're all so cheap
i charge 2x or 3x and still have the same amount of work u do
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