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Thread: The Problem WIth Pistols Compared to Rifles/Carbines

laodamas
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:11 am
#1

As far as ranged weapons go, pistols are the lowest damage, fastest speed in the game. The problem I have with pistols is the high SAC cost on non enhanced versions. Speed/damage really takes a beating if you try to get a low SAC pistol. With the speed of pistols you burn through action fast.


With carbines/rifles we have the stock. I can easliy cap SAC on these high damage dealing weapons. Some cap on final combine, others require1-2 points into efficiency on final combine. Speed will be a little slower but more then made up for with the low SAC.


What do other weaponsmiths think of adding a grip to pistol crafting, would act just like the stock. Decrease SAC with a speed penalty.


Havent seen this come up before as a discussion. We all know Melee weapons need a boost like this, but what do you think for pistols.



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magicbag420
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:27 am
#2

I think you should forward this post to Dawggy, he seems to know everything......





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laodamas
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:38 am
#3

Seen that in the trade forums, but he does have a point. Many of my early pistols were high dps with SAC in the 87-92 range. At the time I was pistoleer and those pistols just plain burned action way to fast. Now we have Power Cells and can make pistols double capped or very close. The problem is that I can easily cap SAC on rifles/carbines without enhancers and still maintain 265-270+ dps. Aim for that with a pistol and you get 85+ SAC and most of the DPS coming from speed. So you do less damage but shoot faster. Every special uses action, with a pistol you have to shoot more often to get the job done, resulting in more action cost/damage done.


Then comes the paradigm. I lower SAC which lowers DPS, which means it now takes even more specials to kill your target, which in turn causes more action burn.





Laodamas Odysseus - Elder Jedi
Helios Odysseus - Elder Master Bounty Hunter
Dionysos Odysseus - Master Weaponsmith/Master Armorsmith
Drop off's at Odysseus Loot Vendor @ /waypoint 1562 1708 Keren, Naboo
Nixen
Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:14 am
#4

All of this is true, of course, but people tend to disregard the fact that pistols are the best weapons in the game for state attacks, i.e. you can use a blind/bleed/stun/whatever attack with both a rifle and a pistol, but you get the same effect faster and with lower sacdrain if you use the pistol.. I tend to think that makes the lower damage output of the pistol balanced..



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