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Thread: The Official Flame the WS community without reason topic (Note All in good fun)

ZionHalcyon
Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:34 am
#27






jason67 wrote:

Had it been a concise question, and had it been asked appropriately with adequate time to respond then I guarantee you would have been answered.


Personally just so you know I won't EVER answer a question when the person posing the question doesn't have enough information to actually correctly form the question. I also won't respond if they want some insanely long question answered for no apparent reason.


You did not ask a specific question, instead you basically asked for an entire list of of what goes where when building a weapon, frankly the only people that should even be concerned about that are weaponsmiths. If your looking at getting into the Weaponsmith profession then you clearly chose the wrong way to approach it. If you have loot your interested in using, or if your interested in gathering useful loot, then instead you should have asked specifically about the loot you had, or the types of weapons you were interested in looting.


Basically what you did was the same as if I went to the AS forum and asked for a complete list of loot enhancers and what they went into, then after giving you a couple hours to respond I'd come back and tell you that all AS's are lazy and after that I'd come back in and post that not only are you lazy in game but that your also lazy in real life, then I would sit back and wonder why no one wanted to help me answer my question.


This post was not meant to be a flame towards you or the AS community but was posted in order to enlighten you on how we interpreted your post and to give you some comparisons to the AS/WS community to help you understand.


Honestly I don't spend all day everyday in the WS forum so that I can teach all the other WS's or forum trolls (not meant to be negative) how to make weapons. If there are specific questions in regards to crafting weapons I'm always happy to help, but I'm not about to waste my time making a list of enhancers, resources, etc... just because someone is curious. The weaponsmiths are often a very helpful group but tend to be very cold towards ignorant people in regards to our profession, especially veteran players that SHOULD know better.






Pardon me - if I made a failure here, it was the assumption that a list DID exist already, and all one of you would have to do is point me in that direction. I don't need my hand held to make weapons - I don't make them. Rather I try to educate myself on weapons so I know exactly what goes into them and what can be done. I am one of those annoying "educated" consumers.


So, go on, and get on your high horse if you want to, but your argument is STILL full of BS. The question could not be more straight-forward than "what loots go into what weapons". All there had to be was an "I don't know" or a "that is a rather time consuming list, can you be more specific", or any other thing that could be said to clarify. But hey, all you are doing is reinforcing what I initially said - you got a bunch of lazy people on these forums.


Thank God my server has some awesome, helpful, customer service-orientedWS's - I'd hate to think what it would be like if some of you were there.


Heh, keep it coming - the pathetic arguments trying to rationalize the laziness andlack of customer service are quite amusing.



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ZionHalcyon
Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:37 am
#28






jason67 wrote:


Basically what you did was the same as if I went to the AS forum and asked for a complete list of loot enhancers and what they went into, then after giving you a couple hours to respond I'd come back and tell you that all AS's are lazy and after that I'd come back in and post that not only are you lazy in game but that your also lazy in real life, then I would sit back and wonder why no one wanted to help me answer my question.







The difference is, there we actually have a link that can tell you what goes into what, NOT just a general list of what's out there to casually toss in someone's face.


Sorry that I assumed you guys had your act as together as the armorsmiths; they may be a little overly whiny, but at least I know for the most part they have their $#!t together, unlike over here.



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Jorren's Spy Kill-o-meter:
305 Rebels |4 Jetpacks | 4 BARC | 3 AT-RT | 2 Desert Skiff | 2 AV-21
and countless speederbikes and land speeders.
I love being a spy.
ShugFlurry
Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:46 am
#29



ZionHalcyon wrote:


Summerflame wrote:
Well you might very well be right in that our forum lacks the information you were after, but your attitude and your way of presenting the issue is really not helping your case. Had you come in with a different tone suggesting we added the information I can gaurentee you that people would have welcome your additions.
But calling people lazy, becourse they havent answered your post in the 5 hours you gave it that just doesnt bring you anywhere and again suggest you drop the insults or stops posting at the boards as i really doesnt bring anything to the community.



Indeed and point taken.

But I do like how now that I called everyone else giving me crap on how their arrogant spew of the link didn't give me what I was looking for is now looking to puff out their chests and turn this into a pissing contest to cover for their inadequacies...






My my you are probably worse than the guy who used this is a trade forum, gotta hate it when illiterate people try to associate with the learned folk.



Shug
12pt Master WeaponSmith Master Force Crafter
-843 2827 Dantooine, Mining Outpost
ZionHalcyon
Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:16 am
#30






ShugFlurry wrote:
I guess that lack of reply to my post indicates theres nothing you can rebut. Maybe because it's true. Link there now go and sod off, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, do some work ya lazy pos.




Hardly, infact, the fact that you guys can seem to respond so quickly to this post now that I got your attention, even during those "off peak hours", and yet when a simple question was asked you ignored it, only further strengthens my case that you guys are indeed lazy.



Z I O N U H A L C Y O N
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Jorren's Spy Kill-o-meter:
305 Rebels |4 Jetpacks | 4 BARC | 3 AT-RT | 2 Desert Skiff | 2 AV-21
and countless speederbikes and land speeders.
I love being a spy.
ShugFlurry
Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:22 am
#31

Wow, so you don't know how to follow the links, IT WAS POSTED RIGHT IN THE STICKIES, DO SOME WORK! We are lazy because we didn't come to your beck and call? Or the fact that now that circumstances have changed, new day different things happen, if you had bothered to look you would've found what you wanted.

Also I find your name offensive to myself and my beliefs.



Shug
12pt Master WeaponSmith Master Force Crafter
-843 2827 Dantooine, Mining Outpost
ZionHalcyon
Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:39 am
#32






ShugFlurry wrote:
Wow, so you don't know how to follow the links, IT WAS POSTED RIGHT IN THE STICKIES, DO SOME WORK! We are lazy because we didn't come to your beck and call? Or the fact that now that circumstances have changed, new day different things happen, if you had bothered to look you would've found what you wanted.

Also I find your name offensive to myself and my beliefs.





NOW who is being illiterate? This is EXACTLY what I mean. I DID the work, I LOOKED through the stickies, and I did NOT find exactly what I was looking for, and I EXPLAINED that. I already said, and it should be rather OBVIOUS from the title of my post that the link you shoved off on me did NOT answer the original question of what goes into what - you linked a list of loot items that did NOT say what weapons they go into, and it would be rather ASININE for you to expect a non-WS to know which weapons take Feed Mechanisms and which take Power Handlers.



Further, I already EXPLAINED all that on page one, and you are STILL trying to tell me that is the right link, or that it is stickied up there.



Sorry, wrong, try again, you lose, learn to READ.





Z I O N U H A L C Y O N
J O R R EN U DA RK S T A R
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Jorren's Spy Kill-o-meter:
305 Rebels |4 Jetpacks | 4 BARC | 3 AT-RT | 2 Desert Skiff | 2 AV-21
and countless speederbikes and land speeders.
I love being a spy.
ShugFlurry
Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:48 am
#33

And I guess it would be too much to ask you to find out? I know I was able to find out that layers ==> segs ==> cores ==> armour. Ok maybe not illiterate just unable to think?



Shug
12pt Master WeaponSmith Master Force Crafter
-843 2827 Dantooine, Mining Outpost
ShugFlurry
Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:04 am
#34



ZionHalcyon wrote:


jason67 wrote:
Basically what you did was the same as if I went to the AS forum and asked for a complete list of loot enhancers and what they went into, then after giving you a couple hours to respond I'd come back and tell you that all AS's are lazy and after that I'd come back in and post that not only are you lazy in game but that your also lazy in real life, then I would sit back and wonder why no one wanted to help me answer my question.



The difference is, there we actually have a link that can tell you what goes into what, NOT just a general list of what's out there to casually toss in someone's face.
Sorry that I assumed you guys had your act as together as the armorsmiths; they may be a little overly whiny, but at least I know for the most part they have their $#!t together, unlike over here.




Ummm just curious where is this sticky that tells me Rancor hide goes into this, you need this much for this piece and what to do with janta layers, might be useful for me to send to those really really ignorant customers who think I'm an AS



Shug
12pt Master WeaponSmith Master Force Crafter
-843 2827 Dantooine, Mining Outpost
Accamim
Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:08 am
#35

I'll spoon feed him Shug, so the baby can go night night.

Hmmm, tissues go into Blaster Power Handlers... From "Comprehensive Weaponsmith Loot Enhancements/Components/Schematics (updated 9/10/2004)"

A. Blaster Power Handle
Krayt Dragon Tissue
Found On: Juvenile/Canyon/Ancient Krayt Dragons
Location: Tatooine
Enhances: +30 (to 300) to Max Damage, -0.3 (to -2.0) to Speed

Hmmm, what do blaster power handlers go in... From "Useful weaponsmith reference lists:":

Blaster Power-handler / Advanced Blaster Power Handler
Used in: DH17 Carbine, DH17 Short Carbine, DXR6 Carbine, E11 Carbine, EE3 Carbine, Elite Carbine, Laser Carbine, Acid Stream Launcher, Heavy Particle Beam Cannon, Lightning Beam Cannon, Rocket Launcher, D18 Pistol, DH17 Pistol, DL44 Metal Pistol, DL44 Pistol, DX2 Pistol, Power5 Pistol, Power5 Pistol, Republic Blaster, SR Combat Pistol, Scatter Pistol, Beam Rifle, DLT20 Rifle, DLT20a Rifle, E11 Rifle, Jawa Ion Rifle, Laser Rifle, SG82 Rifle, T21 Rifle, Flame Thrower, Heavy Acid Rifle, Light Lightning Cannon
Smuggler4ever
Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:17 am
#36

Hate to butt in, since these aren't my forums, but I was kinda looking for the same thing (looking for how many tissues go into a T21. Used to be 11, but a friend said they dropped it to 6, so I decided to check), and this argument intrigued me. In looking for my info, I found exactly what you were looking for, Zion:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Sunrunner&message.id=237047

Sorry, dunno how to clicky. That kinda explains it, it was in the FAQ, one post below the main post.

And someone who posted on SWGcraft said that power handlers on T21's dropped from 10 to 5? Would this mean my friend was right, by chance? Thanks, ahead of time.




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Vade_WS
Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:27 am
#37


ZionHalcyon wrote:
Further, I already EXPLAINED all that on page one, and you are STILL trying to tell me that is the right link, or that it is stickied up there.

Sorry, wrong, try again, you lose, learn to READ.





Proof that you are incapable of interpreting and/or finding the information in the stickied post:

1. Comprehensive Weaponsmith Loot Enhancements -- This lists all enhancements and which compenents they go into.

2. Useful weaponsmith reference lists -- Contains all sorts of cross-reference lists for weapons including which components go into which weapon: Components Uses

3. Krayt Tissue FAQ -- Lists exactly how many tissues are needed for all the pre-CU weapons.

4. Weaponsmiths' Websites -- Points you at some of the more useful WS websites, including, in the second message I have l00t... what will it make? from our cor Mor-Dan. That post again shows the list of which enhancers go in which weapons.

All the information can be found from the items in the stickied "Weaponsmith FAQ and Important Links" as I just showed. This just proves you are incapable of finding information and are blaming us for it. If you had a question about specific information there, you could have asked. Instead you claim we are lazy when we don't respond quickly enough for you.

We are not trained animals that will jump through hoops for you. Next time you have a question, ask politely and eventually you'll get an answer.

Go away troll.

Message Edited by Vade_WS on 06-09-2005 12:33 PM




Vade -- 12pt Master Weaponsmith & Master Commando
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Vade_WS
Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:32 am
#38


Smuggler4ever wrote:
And someone who posted on SWGcraft said that power handlers on T21's dropped from 10 to 5? Would this mean my friend was right, by chance? Thanks, ahead of time.




Yes, T21s now take 5 power handlers instead of 10, so to enhance a T21 you'll need 6 tissues: 1 for the schematic and 5 for the power handlers.

Any item that requires more than 1 enhanced component (e.g. "take 4 identical from a factory crate") will require 1 loot item for the schematic plus however many are needed for the final assembly.




Vade -- 12pt Master Weaponsmith & Master Commando
Deliveries can be made to the CU Weapons vendor in Surebleak, on Lok (1727 5966) Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses...
Summerflame
Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:44 am
#39

I cant believe this post still lives.... if anyone is lazy here it gotta be the Mods




Smuggler4ever wrote:
Hate to butt in, since these aren't my forums, but I was kinda looking for the same thing (looking for how many tissues go into a T21. Used to be 11, but a friend said they dropped it to 6, so I decided to check), and this argument intrigued me. In looking for my info, I found exactly what you were looking for, Zion:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Sunrunner&message.id=237047

Sorry, dunno how to clicky. That kinda explains it, it was in the FAQ, one post below the main post.

And someone who posted on SWGcraft said that power handlers on T21's dropped from 10 to 5? Would this mean my friend was right, by chance? Thanks, ahead of time.




T21s takes 6 tissues after the CU 5 for the weapon and 1 for the schematic.


Oh and this poster is a perfect example of how to pose a question. Stating exactly what he needs to know and why.


Hope my answer helps you and hopefulyl youll see it before the mods come to close this silly argument.





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