Weaponsmith Archive

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smw356 wrote:

two words:

acklay bones

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Too true... Genosian sword core (with yellow cubes and agents) make a really good ryyk/curved... Add acklay bones to a stun baton or gaffi stick and you get some really good sticks... Made a couple of gaffi's last night using genosian reinforcement cores (+10 yellow and +13 agent)... Hows a 274 max gaffi sound to you??? I do agree that the armorpiercing of fencers is sorely neglected... IMO vibros should be AP2, the ryyk/rantok should be AP1

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WerrtZer wrote:

Why has the fencer been over-looked in this way?

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waaha wrote:

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WerrtZer wrote:

Why has the fencer been over-looked in this way?

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Guess you havent seen the power of a well crafted acklay gaffi stick

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You guess correctly. I haven't seen these things let alone had a chance to craft with them. If they've been looted on my server they certainly haven't come up for sale.

To whoever said commandos/BH got nothing: please. They get to use ALL of the ranged weapons and their enhancements. As for Jedi: they can kiss my a$$. Any player that crafts there own weapon and heals themselves needs no new toys.

I still stand by my initial comments. Apart from the aforementioned bones, fencer got no new toy or anything that would have been EASY to receive as a themepark reward.

A well crafted Acklay that isn't available anymore. Those crazy stat ackleys with the min higher than the max have been removed from future drops. I think the new ones are around 80 max, instead of the 280 min, 180 max bones there were.

Here's another problem, even if they didn't change the Acklays. It spawns what, once every half hour? So let's say it dropped bones HALF the time it spawned..... 23 people (server reset, remember?) per day can get the bones. Then they sell them for 200-500K, maybe even a million. Soooooo..... Now we have to spend about 1.5 million to buya weapon that can compete with the rest of the professions? And in 3 weeks when you have to repair it......... Oof, I'd kill someone if it broke. or got a speed slice.

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Entropism wrote:

A well crafted Acklay that isn't available anymore. Those crazy stat ackleys with the min higher than the max have been removed from future drops. I think the new ones are around 80 max, instead of the 280 min, 180 max bones there were.

Here's another problem, even if they didn't change the Acklays. It spawns what, once every half hour? So let's say it dropped bones HALF the time it spawned..... 23 people (server reset, remember?) per day can get the bones. Then they sell them for 200-500K, maybe even a million. Soooooo..... Now we have to spend about 1.5 million to buya weapon that can compete with the rest of the professions? And in 3 weeks when you have to repair it......... Oof, I'd kill someone if it broke. or got a speed slice.

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I have a 3.0 251-282 dmg stun baton crafted with post-nerf acklay bones. Good ones still spawn just not as common or as absurd as before.

As well as Master Weaponsmith i am also a fencer and boy i felt like i got the shaft

Maybe next publish we'll get some lubbin.....

I don't mean to ressurect a dead subject, but how is a 3.0 speed weapon (w/ decent damage, I give you that) a 'good' fencer weapon? I make 2h weapons with that speed that do more damage with a fraction of the resources and trouble required to make this weapon. As a fencer I'm supposed to hit faster than the other classes cuz god knows I'm not going to out-damage them, but with the uber-borked combat I'll be lucky to get in as many hits as the swordsman who's beating my mind like a rented mule. I'm sorry, but I stick to my claim that fencers got the long shaft on this publish.

-Azroth-

Thats 251-282 of STUN damage though, don't forget that part of the weapon. And 3.0 is not that bad considering that the fastest regular crafted Fencer weapon I can make is 2.2. and You cannot compare 1-handed weapons to two handed weapon especially of different damage types off speed alone. That Stun Baton is a really good stun baton.

Well, I would like to go so far to say that with a good acklay enhanced stun baton Fencer will own in melee combat.

I first was disappointed that fencer didn't get any new weapons but after making some acklay bone batons I have chnaged my mind.

I made a bunch of Stun batons and Gaderaffi from +144 bones:

Stun Batons are 142-236 damage 3.1 speed UNSLICED!
Gaderaffi are 185-326 4.0 UNSLICED

I sliced them (all but one) and unfrotunatly got most speed slices (of course, and the best dam skice was on the weapon with worst base dam): this is what I got:

236-417 4.0
226-372 4.0 (made by another +105 bone but good slice)
185-326 2.9

Stun Batons:

187-311 3.2
163-271 3.1
142-236 2.0
142-236 2.1
142-236 2.2 x 2
142-236 2.4 x 2

142-236 3.2 UNSLICED (will probably slice it)
133-156 3.1 x 2 (using +65 bones) UNSLICED

What is interesting is that HAM cost is better than on normal batons (get rid of the HAM cost on the core)

Hehe, my alt account is fencer (well only at brawler so far).

How much would this batons cost on your server? I have a hard time how to price them (and I hate auctions)

DanteSkrum wrote: As well as Master Weaponsmith i am also a fencer and boy i felt like i got the shaft Maybe next publish we'll get some lubbin.....

LOL!

**edit** are you talking about? You of all people should know that fencers got the most love of all.

I mean.. Stun Batons with over 400 max? Mylil guy Neoc is terrorizing the empire with the one I made for him.

Suddenly fencers have uber defense and serious damage output in PvP (stun damage mind you)

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Shmoove wrote:

I don't mean to ressurect a dead subject, but how is a 3.0 speed weapon (w/ decent damage, I give you that) a 'good' fencer weapon? I make 2h weapons with that speed that do more damage with a fraction of the resources and trouble required to make this weapon. As a fencer I'm supposed to hit faster than the other classes cuz god knows I'm not going to out-damage them, but with the uber-borked combat I'll be lucky to get in as many hits as the swordsman who's beating my mind like a rented mule. I'm sorry, but I stick to my claim that fencers got the long shaft on this publish.

-Azroth-

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Huh? Why are you looking at the speed? Master Fencer has +90 to speed. I hit the speed cap spamming specials on my 3.5 speed Gaffi, how is 3.0 bad? It could be 6.0 for all I care, it still wouldn't matter to me....

The reason it's so good is because it does stun damage. I won't even explain that, just think on it for a bit.

I hate how everyone thinks that fencers never get hit a fencer/pistolneer never gets hit but a fencer can get torn up pretty bad once they make dodge unstackable most of the present fencers will go back to tka. Aclay bones are pretty hard to come by with people camping that room all day and it spawn every 2hours or so. Ive waited for 4 hours befor without 1 spawn.Stun damage isnt al that great any good pvper has there armor stun layered.