Weaponsmith Archive

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bmfonit wrote:

Ok so after more work/asking questions/testing. the increase dosent effect assmbly stats only lines you max out (supposedly let me know if im wrong but i was told this by the best AS on our server).. I was able to add 5 damage to a basic alr. If you couldnt get -9sac on a componant you may be able to now. on high end guns like a pistol where you cap before you finish the line you will see no differance. So if you build guns like me with all round stats it will make no differance to you whatsoever.

To support this my PUP's that I crafted went up from high 33% to mid 34% damage (i finished that line) but my speed penalty was not affected (casue i only put 5 points in it) and stayed at low 9%

Message Edited by bmfonit on 08-31-2005 06:25 PM

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yes it does affect the assemlby tough seems its capped at 29,9^ so probably thats why u cant hit 100 on the exp. furthermore i tried making adv sword cores with perfect dolovite(873UT) and the strange thing was that both speed and eff became 30% on assembly but damage only 29 only and i still coludnt hit 100 on any... tough Summer posted she could achvied it on something

what are the % with a moderate, good and fail anyway. I know great is 7% and amazing is 8%.

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Mor-Dan wrote:
it stilll amazes me that there are MASTER crafters out there who have not invested time in the force experimentation and technique trees and still complain when they get mediocre and successes and failures. all greats and amazings are yours to be had.. it only takes about a week after you open the trees.

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Its not the week grind I dread. Its the rerequirements to get FS sensitive.

meh personally I dont see that it's helping much. if anything I think amazing successes are even fewer and farther between... made an enhanced Featherweight and got great successes across the board. I think I only got 1 amazing on sac on the enhanced elite carbine i made for a friend

Message Edited by NateKronohs on 09-01-2005 11:35 AM

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Mor-Dan wrote:
it stilll amazes me that there are MASTER crafters out there who have not invested time in the force experimentation and technique trees and still complain when they get mediocre and successes and failures. all greats and amazings are yours to be had.. it only takes about a week after you open the trees.

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I was under the impression that the FS crafting bonus dont stack with the research city bonuses... so it seemed likea lot of work to me to get an extra +5 to my experimentation roll... FS crafting gives +20 research gives +15. I generally get all greats as it is I rarely get anything but a great, occasionaly I get an amazing and even rarer I get a non-great/non-amazing

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maigy wrote:

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Mor-Dan wrote:
it stilll amazes me that there are MASTER crafters out there who have not invested time in the force experimentation and technique trees and still complain when they get mediocre and successes and failures. all greats and amazings are yours to be had.. it only takes about a week after you open the trees.

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I was under the impression that the FS crafting bonus dont stack with the research city bonuses... so it seemed likea lot of work to me to get an extra +5 to my experimentation roll... FS crafting gives +20 research gives +15. I generally get all greats as it is I rarely get anything but a great, occasionaly I get an amazing and even rarer I get a non-great/non-amazing

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all i know is, pre-FS i was +25 exp suit and in a research center and had many moderates and failures. since getting technique, i have never had worse than a great success except once when i put all 7 artisan points i had into one line with a total of +75artisan exp points. even still, it was a good success and only happened once.

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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maigy wrote:

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Mor-Dan wrote:
it stilll amazes me that there are MASTER crafters out there who have not invested time in the force experimentation and technique trees and still complain when they get mediocre and successes and failures. all greats and amazings are yours to be had.. it only takes about a week after you open the trees.

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I was under the impression that the FS crafting bonus dont stack with the research city bonuses... so it seemed likea lot of work to me to get an extra +5 to my experimentation roll... FS crafting gives +20 research gives +15. I generally get all greats as it is I rarely get anything but a great, occasionaly I get an amazing and even rarer I get a non-great/non-amazing

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all i know is, pre-FS i was +25 exp suit and in a research center and had many moderates and failures. since getting technique, i have never had worse than a great success except once when i put all 7 artisan points i had into one line with a total of +75artisan exp points. even still, it was a good success and only happened once.

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I think they may have changed the die roll with the CU, as I am not doign anything different, and I have never gotten worse than a great on assembly, and never a critical failure on experimentation(I have a had a couple good and maybe 1 or 2 moderates). I am doing nothing different than I was doing pre-cu. I am +120 Experimentation, +123 Assembly, 15.00 Crafting tool, 45 Crafting station, ina research city. And pre-cu I saw many more less than great results, including critical failures.

Exhibit A;

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=306161&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=y

This carbine was crafted in a research city, with a WS buff, using +24 Port. +134 ws exp. suit, I know the extras don't matter but what the heck. I have not tainted myself with any FS lines.

The loot comps were Power Cells at +173 damage and -6 SAC. Loot scope +12 accu -.73 speed.

5 amazings on experimentation. Pre Buff it took a much better Cell to get even near the stats on this carb, my resources are so near the gates though that the 2% bumped everything fairly well.

Crafting components without port during the buff session I had all greats and amazings, the ratio of amazings did go up if ported.

For me at least the buffs seem to be well worth the time involved hunting a Musician down.