Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: All You need to know about the New Krayt Tissue!
Charb,
Read what I said in this thread already 
I don't see this as being too much of a problem for the newer smiths. Your time will come.
At the end of the day, the older smiths will get to a stage where they don't want to be weaponsmiths anymore. I must admit, I am slowly getting to that stage now. The constant tells are becoming a little frustrating, especially when I am surrounded by tuskens after my blood!.
Just to wet your appetities.....and you don't have to believe me obviously, but I got a drop of wait for it......
+181 -0.345 tissue last night!!!!!!
I got 5 tissues in all. I was left weeping though when I got 3 critical failures on assembly in a row! I have NEVER had that in my time as a weaponsmith, and it seems too ironic that I should get it whilst crafting such an important object. So, I am thinking that tissue quality that high may have added risk during crafting. I did manage to make 2 handlers in the end from it....and..OMG...they were good. 18-214 damage, -0.72 weapon speed.
So, I made a scatter pistol and a FWG5 from it. I am confident they are the best weapons of that typeon Tempest at the moment, maybe even on any galaxy. Before anybody asks.....they are NOT for sale! hehe
Although I will be happy to show anybody the FWG5 (as I gave the scatter to my good friend). I just need to get a good slice now and then its PvP time
I'll post the post-slice stats after I get it sliced.
Regards,
Great info, Marlan. I was a little concerned with the change from 11 to 10 max item drops, but this makes me feel much better. Has anyone discovered yet if this applies to other component enhancements as well or just to krayt tissue?
Ehan - Master Weaponsmith, Master Artisan, Installations Designer, Harvester Slave - Intrepid
Welp...SWG is borked.
I used a new +55 no-serial# Krayt tissue to make a schematic, then used common +30 Krayt tissues to make factory runs.
So now I've got a 98 max dmg APBH schematic with which I can use any Krayt tissue to mass-produce. Now if +181 max damage tissues indeed exist...some lucky weaponsmith will have their server market cornered
Really? dang. Thats a bit crap.
I knew I should have held onto it!
Ah well....I'll just have to find some more. I just got excited...and just had to make something with it
And after the 3 initial failures.....I was determined to have a success
wow, awesome job, Joon. the pistols you've made from that tissues will be the best ones for quite long time or maybe forever. ( personally i think Devs increased the bonus on tissues too much )
and it looks like a design flaw to me to be able to use post patch tissues in every schematics of krayt enhanced power handers.
Just thought I'd post the stats on that FWG5........
Speed 1.3
67-494 Damage
17% wound
..+0@[email protected]@64m..
12-37-18 HAM
That is with a damage slice and a damage powerup.
Has anyone else got better? I was expecting more to be honest....as the handlers were so good. Twice as good as anything I had ever made before. I guess the maths on the experimentation is weighted somehow.
I dunno. Even so....I'm more than happy with that pistol!
As for the exploit......that sucks. I can't believe nobody at SOE tested that. <Head - in - hands>
Ah well....looks like the market is about to get flooded with uber weapons. <sigh>
with a dmg slice AND powerup, um then that is wierd
i have a 91-497 1.3with dmg slice and powerup on sunrunner, like +60 tissue and a feed mech, 34% dmg slice, and 32% dmg powerup.
Ouch
whoa whoa whoa, did i just read now a +30 is used in ANY better dmg NON serial schem?
/sigh
here we go, man oh man, this just gets beter every day for the ANTI exploit policy
ok i too want to know if the old ones with serial numbers will work together as long as they have same stats....
and on the 181 tissue ...did you consider making a schematic with the first really good one...granted -- this is wasting another when you had 3 fails already but by having the schematic --- you are assured of not ever getting a fail again - well at least not on the part -
so is every weaponsmith now going to have a krayt schematic for every gun that they sell so that when more come in they caneasily crank them out...
o and as far as you retiring ...yeah i hear ya man...i too am contemplating retirement in the little time I've been doing this ...so much time and effort goes into finding the right materials, wisely using and trying to replace the super rares that for whateverreason and after weeks and weeks of spawns - nothing seems to come close....finding a new material that just blows awaythe prior bestforcing u to redo all the dependent schematics andassuming you built any kind of inventory to give you time to dosomething else- having to clearance sale what ya haveto stock the new...then of course there is the pistol barrel fix whichmakes all the new guns so much btr but then again it also makes all your current guns look so much worse....which means more wasteage of the super rare resources which of course you could bid for at auction for 50-100cu and smile when and if you win...only to notice that more and more miners are mining thousands upon thousands of the new spawn with visions of selling them at much higher prices later making it harder to find a dependable source of materials and forcing u to use what few lots u have to mine more of your own...which gives you less time and money to focus on the next new wave which is factory made krayt enhanced weps (assuming above is true) which now of course makes you depend on the hunters of the world that no longer have 25k endor missions and so even though more and more people are hunting for tissue - more and more people will only want the high end krayts that all the good weaponsmiths will have the money to buy, stock and sell at a reasonable price given their effeciency in scale - buying in bulk, active custoemr lists, etc. - forcing the non-connected smiths to drop out of the high end and try to compete on the mid to low end side where price cutting competition from all the new weaponcrafters who practice macro'd their way to master in a few days are still working extremely hard to make a name for themselves and are working around the clock to undersell, advertise andnetworktheir way to popularity to get more business which some will succeed quite well at given the older crafters frustrations, loss of focus and drive, and just plain ole desire to just relax or do something else - if only for a short time - but are forced into retirement because being away from the craft for a few weeks is just not that feasible given the work thats needed just to keep up .....and so they start thinking that if they were to sell the sevral hundred thousand of materialsat the current rates they could get millions of credits andcould use this small fortune to retire in comfort until they realize that they crafted because they liked too and would miss it terribly and there is really no use for money once you've bought ur few guns, armor and house and so the choice becomes starting over on a new server to try something new ...which sounds liek a good idea until they realize that all of their friends are on the old server and its just not as much fun .... which naturally means that they will have to dig deep into their pocket to come up with an additional 15 per month to start a second account which will provide temporary satisfaction in the short term until they realize that they've spent the last few months feeding an addiction that SOE has cleverly and knowingly groomed by slowly fixing those those things that should have worked all along ...promising more functionality and add-ons to delude and distract you from the problems of today ....and thus allowingthe already wealthy stockholders of SOE to realize their real world life dreams of having more money than the richest mythical swg crafter couldever dream ... forcing the lowly peasants of the lower clases to revolt in anger and fustration by simply walking away and moving on - to the next game -so that they could revenge themselves againt those heartless nameless and faceless capitalist tyrants that joyfully walk on the souls of their victims because they know that all that glitters is gold and they are buying their stairway to heaven....
wow ... i feel much better now... hmm where was I - o yeah - does anyone know whether the old krayt work the same way as the new....
You don't need to use a +30. You can use ANY tissues.
From what I've deduced it seems that the factories check "sameness" in two ways. First it checks serial numbers. Second, it checks name. This is why resources have unique non-repeatable names. The krayt tissues and armor segments (yes, this works for segments too since technically it's the same mechanism) only have names. The factory code does not check for stats. It would be more complicated to check stats to verify sameness. However it seems that got skipped.
So for the time being, it seems then that ANY dropped components without serial numbers can be exploited in the same manner. I haven't personally tried but it seems that the mechanics support this sort of behavior.
The issue has been /buged and PM'ed to Taurin.