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Thread: This isn't Exploited right? Clicky inside!!

Vaf123
Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:08 pm
#14






RJUK wrote:

No it wasn't, I took that screenshot...that rifle is mine. If you know of those BH missions....they drop really nice power cells...that rifle was made with 186 dam power cells. He drank bespine port for every point he made...he even waited 30 minutes so he can continue the craft. This isn't an exploit...I just found it out, thanks for your reply's

Message Edited by RJUK on 08-16-2005 04:54 AM





What makes you so sure?

What did you found out? You don't want to tell us that it is possible to push damage out of bounds by simply waiting 30minutes, do you?



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Summerflame
Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:35 pm
#15






biggdave wrote:





Vaf123 wrote:


For one thing, the Weapon is above the crafting damage cap of 1150 even if we subtract the 4% damage slice


1171 + 4% = 1218 so the crafted weapon should have been 1171 max dam wich is not possible


the second thing is, that any HLR with 1144 or more max damage cannot be sliced because of the slicing cap



If you ask me this weapon is either a fake or there is a new bug in the system like double slicing or sth like that!



Personally I would like to see a greater variation of weapon stats but definately not by bugusing







the weapon crafted in question was done on my server.....when i was told about this I asked how since we all know that once cap is met it will not go further.....first thing that came to mind was that there was a new way to double slice somehow......im still trying to see why this weapon came out the way it did.....i used a looted 191 power cell on my WS and made a scatter just to see if i could exceed wep cap....i reached cap with 4 open slots left...when i kept pumping it in to the remaining slots the damage did not move.....so obviously this weapon is bugged or the WS in question is somehow manupulating the slicing......either way this would steal business from all the weaponsmiths on the server and think this needs to be addressed....the question now is should i report this or let it slide and watch my WS business go down the drain because this guy can do this?







Of course you shouldnt let it slide. Would be nice to get the guy on here to explain what happened as it just seems very very strange that it has exceeded cap. Unlees there still is critical succesed and they can go over cap (which I somehow doubt) this indeed seems to be exploited.


Some Dev clearification would be nice weahter its to say this is not intended or that this is a rare occurance that we all have a possibility to obtain if we are lucky enough





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AldaronTavish
Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:13 pm
#16

Did anyone consider he got that oh so rare critical success on assembly?



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biggdave
Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:46 pm
#17






AldaronTavish wrote:
Did anyone consider he got that oh so rare critical success on assembly?




all of his weapons he is crafting are turning out like this.....its not critical assembly every weapon



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T-Y
Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:54 pm
#18

Why do people block out the creator and serial#.

Smells like an exploit to me. They don't want their precious gun deleted.



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Muzz
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:48 pm
#19






T-Y wrote:

Why do people block out the creator and serial#.

Smells like an exploit to me. They don't want their precious gun deleted.




Exactly. If this was legitimately crafted the WS would probably want as much publicity as possible. Either the screenie has been manipulated or there's something very fishy going on.




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Centaurius
Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:47 am
#20

Seems you could get results like this if you were still able to slice items with a powerup on them andit would also stand to reason the same exploit would allow you to break the cap since you arent supposed to be able to slice weapons with powerups anymore.




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SigmaXIII
Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:36 am
#21

best i made with 194 tissues was 1150max 82 sac



definately looks odd, above weapon had to have a 100% speed enhancement.



could be a bug in subcomponentsmaufacture whereby its not taken into consideration in final craft but exeeds the cap? iunno im just trying to find a plausable explanation without accusing one of our flock of exploiting








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fabkins
Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:47 am
#22

"Seems you could get results like this if you were still able to slice items with a powerup on them andit would also stand to reason the same exploit would allow you to break the cap since you arent supposed to be able to slice weapons with powerups anymore."


I thought about this yesterday and the math still dont add up.


Inefficient elemental pup will decrease the damage by 29% so lets run the numbers:


Capped damage of 1150with Pup is 1150 / 1.29 = 891


Apply 4% slice891 * 1.04= 927


Remove PuP = 927* 1.29 = 1196


Thats using a 4% slice like the screenshot. An 8% slice would give 1241.


The min on this weapon is astronimical too. This weapon just didnt right.


My guessit is a multiple slice exploit probably still involving a PuP rather than a crafting a error but frankly i can tell.







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Aolas
Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:08 am
#23

Since users here can'tlog into the forums w/o an SOEaccount/username, I would think it wouldn't beall that difficultfor SOE to track anyones ingame account if indeed it is suspicious of illegal activity.

/shrug, I could be wrong tho



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steelhead10
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:56 am
#24

hehehe all SOE would have to do (considering they would actually use common sense and think about the steps first) would be to check the guys sig who has it since his name is in the sig, look at the weapon in his inventory (by logs when traded to him or when he /examines it), get the name of the creator and then check the logs on him for the past day or 2 (yes i understand this can be quite time intensive so i doubt they would do it but they could).



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noSup4u
Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:40 am
#25

or just query the item table for unpowered up stats above the cap?






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Vaf123
Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:26 pm
#26










AldaronTavish wrote:
Did anyone consider he got that oh so rare critical success on assembly?





why should the oh so rare critical assembly effect the slicing cap?


why is the object creator removed from the pics?


Message Edited by Vaf123 on 08-17-2005 09:28 AM



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