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Thread: Chat with a Ranger about T21 and HAM

CorenLanra
Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:03 pm
#14



agent156 wrote:
Ok what are the normal stats on this stock that I would be losing 40 on the high and low? Like how much ham goes with it? Cause I was hoping there was a use for these Form-Fitted Weapon Stocks I siting on any way. I'm not looking to have a low ham T21 just a lower ham T21 One might say ham optimized.

Like what's up with this T21? Click

The speed is just crap, the damage I would be absolutely fine with, when I saw the ham I nearly cried... if only I could have one so low.

Any ideas about this one? the range stats are all weird. Ideal range 0.0? This from the beta or something? Perhaps I'm just stupid?

Any way I'd love to hear everone's ideas, I'm used to people in this game telling me I'm stuipd or that something isn't going to work. I get proven wrong just enough to keep me from geting cocky. I'm right just enough to not give up.

I had to buy a factory just to keep up with my CDEF sales as an artisan. I've just taken on a n00b crafter to keep the bazzar stocked with them for me, cause I don't have the time to restock them 3 times a day. How did I end up doing this? Someone told me it would never work...




Not beta, simply one of the very first T21's on ANY server. That was actually made by one of my close WS friends at the time on the Chilastra server.

T21's were "Nerfed" then "Un-Nerfed" then "Nerfed" again. Many of the older ones were very slow but were comparable to advanced stocked versions of today damage wise.



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Zandergeef
Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:59 pm
#15

Your best bet would probably be a Form Fitted Stock. Go do the imperial retreat to get one or contact a weaponsmith to see if he has one.


You will lose a little max damage and some min damage.Speed willbe improvedand the reduction of HAM is verynice. Form Fitted Stocks are greatly underated if you ask me.



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CMYK
Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:03 pm
#16

Don't you have a bonus to hit animals as a Master Ranger? If so, then why bother so much for accuracy?



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hinchles
Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:16 am
#17

surely a ff stock and some amasing krayt tissues would fix his problems as you'd be able to exp more on the ham rather than purely on dam/spd + dura

and can anyone actually explain why the t21 doesnt have a scope oO



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agent156
Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:54 am
#18



CMYK wrote:
Don't you have a bonus to hit animals as a Master Ranger? If so, then why bother so much for accuracy?




Ya I played around a bit and as I advance up the Rifleman tree my inate bonus will handel every thing, as it stands I could drop some accuracy off a standard T21 and be fine.

Ya its sounds like the Form Fitted Stocks I have should do the trick. I can't bring my slef to put krayt in a T21. They melt in you hands not in you mouth if you know what I mean But then again, if a come across 11 what else am I going to do with them? Not selling my own loot. So we will see.

Thanks guys!
hinchles
Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:17 am
#19

make 2 dxr6b's



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Amscu_Edfo
Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:52 pm
#20

Go to your local Weaponsmith and tell him to keep experimenting 6points in the damage of a stock until he hits 38/38. Then leave the speed alone and put the remaining6 points into HAM until you get the amazing. But it cant just be any amazing, the amazing has to get the mind on the stock down to 11. Then when you plug it into the T21, have him max out the damage category and then put the remaining points into HAM, again, looking for the amazing. Mine look like this:

7.9
408
+25 Ideal
76 Mind

76 mind is pretty much as low as Ive gotten them with this method. But for those who don't care about speed, all the reports Ive gotten are that they work great. My alt is a MRM and I use em too.

At master, you will be close to speed cap. Pick up a few CAs or AAs in rifle speed to max out.

Message Edited by Amscu_Edfo on 02-07-2005 06:46 PM



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Sharkio
Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:45 pm
#21

If you're planning to be a contract hunter, I'd just hold onto the themepark loots and save them for a rainy day. I literally went through crates of T21's and not a few Tenloss' as a busy ranger/rifleman, with average lifespan of a T21 being about three weeks if I was lucky. Instead of using the themepark stuff now and maybe regretting it later, imo you're better off buying 5 each of the rifles you plan to use and just keep the nice sliced ones handy.



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Mini_Tuss
Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:29 am
#22

Personally, I'd just bite the bullet. A rifleman/ranger goes through weapons way to fast to waste their money and time getting one weapon's HAM costs down. I know as a rilfeman, even one who only hunts when he's not making weapons, I go through t-21s and dxr-6bs incredibly fast. You'd be better off just taking your two brandy, but adding two ahrissa and a veghash to it.



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