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Thread: Possible Slicer Exploiting?

Rangerw
Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:23 pm
#1

Just wanted to get a feel for what happened today at my vendor tent before I ban this gentleman from the tent.


I had made a couple of Scout Blasters earlier with Nym's capacitors and a FWG5 with a Nym's feed mech and put on my vendor.


Max dmage on the scouts after I crafted them was 171. Max Damage on the FWG5 was 191. This jives with my normal Scouts and FWG5s since the caps and feed mech just added +20 max damage.


After slicing he said they where 282 max dam on the scouts and 304 on the FWG5!


The conversation I screenshot and saved:

http://www.swg-uhw.com/images/fishy.jpg


The math just doesn't add up in my opinion or am I crazy? He even tried to show me the results of his slices. He boughtboth scouts and the one FWG5.


Thoughts please, cause I don't want to ban or turn in an innocent player.




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-Strife-
Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:40 pm
#2

Perhaps he was counting power ups as well.


But to see the maximum damage your weapons should have with a perfect damage slice, simply multiply by 1.35



171x1.35=230


191x1.35=257



Lastly +33% damage slices are extremely uncommon.






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-Strife-
Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:42 pm
#3

Hrmnn shoulda read the Screenshot first...


That's not right, either he's lieing for show, or doing something every other smuggler out there cannot normally do.






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WerrtZer
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:10 pm
#4


lol "My WUKs today are very good". Well thats a load of BS for a start as there have been a lot of tests by folks on the smuggler boards claiming that WUKs made with super low stats materials vs WUKs made with super high stats made absolutely no difference, and even at that if they did the cap is still 35%.


This guy is either lying to you cos he knows you couldn't trade to see them or else he is using the double-slice thing somehow.


His statement is not proof: you would need a screenie of the guns he has now to be positive...


[edit] If you can remember the min dmg stats on the guns you may be able to catch him out as no power up will increase both max AND min dmg by 33%

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LLJK_Griz
Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:17 pm
#5

FWG5 min damage is around 62. 35% damage slice would put it at 84-258, then an 18% slice on top of that would give it exactly 99-304. There also many other combinations of slices that would produce the same end results, but what matters here is that thisratio of min/max is impossible to get with powerups so this guy is either exploiting or making things up.


Put in a ticket, let the CSRs confiscate his guns.




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Reldun
Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:18 pm
#6

Yea...definately shady, math does not add up. There are still smuggler exploits out there. File a ticket...be sure to select exploit from the drop down menu...gets a fast response.



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CivicExR95
Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:31 pm
#7

He's just lying probably. People love to lie about having uber weapons



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Siymon
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:52 am
#8

This weekend I got a bunch of Armor and weapons sliced. Got a few 40's % slices on armor. Was there a fix of some kind to allow "Legendary" slices? Or is there a higher cap on armor. Still not seen higher than a 35 on a weapon but this slicer stated that she had seen a few weapon and armor slices in the 40%.'s



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Itchybacca
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:22 am
#9

if you didnt see the weapon in trade window chances are pretty good he's lying.

I've been lied to many times abotu weaponslices and a week later when I repair it and see the real stats, I confirm the lie. I do not confront them because if they want to lie fine, it only makes them look like an a$$



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sdangelo
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:24 am
#10

The range for armor slices is different from the range for weapon slices.

Weapon slices are limited to 35% and usually cluster around 24% for master smugglers. Armor slices can get up to 45% and 40% isn't too uncommon.

Best of luck,

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Eola
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:34 am
#11

Actually, I'd lay money on the guy double-slicing.


There's a double-slicing exploit out there that doesn't require multiple smugglers, I've had people brag to me about it and show me the guns, I've screenshot'ed, reported and banned them from my store but several are still out there somewhere.





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Cirtan
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:44 am
#12

to be clear, armor can only be sliced upto 35%, on effectiveness.


40% on encumberance.


After speaking to an armorsmith friend, these are the numbers he understood to be correct.



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Ivann
Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:08 pm
#13

to set the record straight.. armor can be sliced upto 45% encomb. and on a VERY rare chance that you can get higher encomb.. i think i did a 48% encomb once. and i have been master smuggler for several months.


but yea.. this guy seems to be just sugar coating these.. or exploiting. he will get his day tho if he is.



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