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Thread: Scythe question

Nydrax
Sat Apr 24, 2004 12:17 am
#1

Can you use bile soaked rancor teeth in the scythe instead of the solidifying agent?



Pikkon Do'Urden
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Destryr
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:54 am
#2

As a swordsman im allways on the hunt for my weapons...personal favourite is the scythe and my hammer only coming out occasionally, however it is nigh on impossible to find a weapopns smith on Eclipse that actually stocks these weapons..the odd 1 i have found was of low to medium stats bit sky high price.


Question to you weponsmiths is


what is stopping you from stocking the weapon?


the limited availability of the schematics?

limited availability of decent power cubes?

anything else?


this isnt having a go at weaponsmiths who i have found the vast majority of time to be courteous and helpfull, just wondering the details of their none avalability.



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Kielker
Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:07 am
#3

Mainly schematic availability.


Secondarily, its getting a large number of identical power cubes and solidifying agents. If the schematic wasn't limited, then this wouldn't be as much of an issue.





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sabacc1000
Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:09 pm
#4

The problem is the schematics for several reasons.


First of all, the schematic is only 2 uses. Each scythe requires 2 identical geonosian sword cores. Each sword core requires one power cube and, if you so choose, one solidifying agent. Now, because of the need to "burn" items (as we call it) when making schematics, a set of 7 identical cubes and solidifiers, or 5 identical looted geonosian sword cores would be needed just to get 2 scythes out of a single use on the schematic. Since we believe that geo loot is capped at 7 items per MOB (although very recent reports seem to suggest that cap has been raised), that means an absolute maximum of 6 scythes per schematic, and that's with some pretty rare drops. Then, even if you can get the 7-drop of sword cores, they're likely only the base 25/25 ones, so the scythe will be decent, but probably not up to par with what you typically see.


Another problem is the availability of the schematic in the first place. Since we only know of one way to get this ( a static NPC quest on tatooine), that means that there are only two schematics that can be obtained per player, assuming you do the quest successfully, then reset the planetary quests, and do it a second time. However, getting the schematic isn't as easy as that. Thequest give has to decide that you're strong enough to complete thetask, or he won't even talk to you. Plus, the end of the quest gives you a treasure map, which leads you to the krayt graveyard. When you dig it up, a Canyon Krayt spawns right on top of it. So the unlucky or unsuspecting quester will die, and lose his chance at the schematic.


And then, of course, you have to find creative ways to even get people to go do the quest for you. After all, if they're not swordsmen, why would they want to work to get you loot they'll never see the benefit of?


So all that is why scythes are very hard to keep "stocked". Your best bet would be to get acquainted with your regular weaponsmith, and try to work out a deal. Good luck



Ackeeba Owadu
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Thunky
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:54 pm
#5






sabacc1000 wrote:


Now, because of the need to "burn" items (as we call it) when making schematics, a set of 7 identical cubes and solidifiers, or 5 identical looted geonosian sword cores would be needed just to get 2 scythes out of a single use on the schematic. Since we believe that geo loot is capped at 7 items per MOB (although very recent reports seem to suggest that cap has been raised), that means an absolute maximum of 6 scythes per schematic, and that's with some pretty rare drops. Then, even if you can get the 7-drop of sword cores, they're likely only the base 25/25 ones, so the scythe will be decent, but probably not up to par with what you typically see.




actually you need 6 looted cores to make 2 scythes from one use. 2 for the scythe schem, and 4 for the scythes. so you would not be able to make 3 scythes from one use unless you got a 8 drop of cores. not sure i've ever seen those.




Thunky Bith'Thew
Master Weaponsmith
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Thunky's Ye Olde Weapon Shoppe
Dunamis Leon, Flurry
sabacc1000
Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:04 pm
#6

Thanks for the correction. So make that a max of 4 scythes per schematic either way.



Ackeeba Owadu
Master Weaponsmith - Intrepid
Ackeeba's Weapons Emporium - The Promenade
Tatooine (2599, -4428) outside Mos Eisley

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Amay
Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:21 am
#7

Hi I was wondering if u tryed to make a sythe in a factory schematic form. I tryed the first time i got at schematic, cuase i had 6 identical looted cores i thought why not? I lost both builds some how. I never tryed again. So i was wondering if u were sucsesfull on your server?



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Pyp
Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:31 am
#8

OK, I'm being a nub here, but am I missing something. The schematic is a 2 use one. Each scythe needs 2 identical cores. So you need 2 sets of 2 cores to get 2 scythes, not 3 sets of 2 or 6 identical ones. If we are talking about making a factory run - whats the point when you are restricted by the identical cores ??



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sabacc1000
Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:22 am
#9

We are talking about making factory runs, because it's how you get the most from your schematics. Looted cores, or the components needed to make the cores are far easier to obtain than scythe schematics, since you can farm loot, but not quest rewards. So by making the factory runs, when able, you are getting 4 scythes out of each rare schematic instead of only 2. It's not a groundbreaking improvement, but with something like this, every little bit helps.



Ackeeba Owadu
Master Weaponsmith - Intrepid
Ackeeba's Weapons Emporium - The Promenade
Tatooine (2599, -4428) outside Mos Eisley

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- Niix Starkyller

Weaponsmizzle..../wearTshirtWithPride
Thunky
Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:25 am
#10






Pyp wrote:

OK, I'm being a nub here, but am I missing something. The schematic is a 2 use one. Each scythe needs 2 identical cores. So you need 2 sets of 2 cores to get 2 scythes, not 3 sets of 2 or 6 identical ones. If we are talking about making a factory run - whats the point when you are restricted by the identical cores ??





first, are you a "nub" or a "newb". isn't a nub just a small piece of something? like flesh? =P


well you're partly right. if you wanted to make 2 scythes out of a scythe schematic all you would need is 2 pairs of looted cores. but the aim here is to optimise the use of the schematic since it is the limiting factor andnot the cores. you want to squeeze as many scythes out of one schematic as you can because it is much rarer than the looted cores.


in order to do that, for each use of the schematic, you want to max out the number of scythes you can make from it and the only way to do that is to make a factory schematic out of that one use. since each scythe (and schematic) uses 2 looted cores, you will need 2+2X number of cores to make X number of scythes.


If X=1, it's pointless since you use 4 cores (2 for schem, 2 for scythe) to make 1 scythe and STILL use up one use on the scythe schematic.


X=3 would be great, cos that would mean you make 3 scythes out of one use of the scythe schematic, however this would require 8 looted cores which i'm not entirely sure ever occurs.


so we are left with X=2, where we get 2 scythes out of one use of the schematic, which would require 6 identical cores.


I hope that's not too confusing. Even for nubs. =)





Thunky Bith'Thew
Master Weaponsmith
Teras Kasi Master
Thunky's Ye Olde Weapon Shoppe
Dunamis Leon, Flurry
Pyp
Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:43 am
#11

I got it now. Doh. Guess I'd better do that with my disruptor schematics aswell !



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DrkSyde
Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:47 am
#12




When you dig it up, a Canyon Krayt spawns right on top of it. So the unlucky or unsuspecting quester will die, and lose his chance at the schematic.





This is only 1/2 accurate in my experience... I used my alt to get this schematic for myself to craft some scythes, and my alt toon died from the Canyon Krayt but as soon as i Cloned in a nearby city about 2000m away from the treasure wp I made my way back there to find the Krayt had moved off ravaging the countryside while leaving the treasure unprotected... from what i have been told only the Person with the treasure map can unlock the treasure chest and loot the Scythe Schematic and all the other junk inside.... so anyways... i did just that i opened it up and looted all the stuff inside ... so even after i died i still was able to get my schematic




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Unique_Handle
Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:52 am
#13

I have a question (I am not a weaponsmith).
Exactly what do I need to make the scythe blade?

What should I use to get the best scythe I can (I have a bunch of geo loot)
For the minerals, which stats are important?

Thanks...
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