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Thread: T-21's

michaelstorey
Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:40 pm
#1

Heres a novel idea. FIX THE **edit** T-21 RIFLE IN THE RADIANT SERVER. I AM A RIFLEMAN THAT IS NO MORE POWERFUL THAN A RIFLE SPECIALIST. THIS IS CRAP. EITHER FIX THE BUG, OR I FEEL THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE WILL BE QUITTING THE GAME OUT OF FRUSTRATION. Oh yeah, and why was the armor piercing lowered in the last update? Also, I feel that the T-21's range should be higher, and its HAM costs should be lower. I dont feel its right that a BH is able to do what the entire Rifleman Tree is specialized in better than a Rifleman. This just doesnt make sense at all.
Barkingbantha
Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:03 pm
#2

Erm....you really havnt had your finger on the pulse have you?


Read the T21 threads and then youll understand whats happened matey.

Naeto
Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:19 pm
#3

I'm trying to find out what good dmg and speed on an unsliced T-21 would be. And if there would be any reason to make a krayted T-21. The increase in dmg just seems to be insignificant.



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Mor-Dan
Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:02 pm
#4



Naeto wrote:
I'm trying to find out what good dmg and speed on an unsliced T-21 would be. And if there would be any reason to make a krayted T-21. The increase in dmg just seems to be insignificant.





a 600dmg T21 is worth a lot of money. there is definitely a market. it just shows that krayting a T21 with +40 is pretty pointless. however, 60 and up is like buying a T21 that has been 15% dmg sliced. not a bad deal...



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dnalluf
Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:35 pm
#5






Naeto wrote:

I'm trying to find out what good dmg and speed on an unsliced T-21 would be. And if there would be any reason to make a krayted T-21. The increase in dmg just seems to be insignificant.






Hi naeto, good base for t-21's when using advanced blaster powerhandlersis about speed 7,3 max dam 410. If u get these stats u have made a very good rifle with only high quality resources . if u use standard blaster power handlers u will get about 20 les for max dam.. Nemis



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-Redux-
Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:08 pm
#6






Naeto wrote:

I'm trying to find out what good dmg and speed on an unsliced T-21 would be. And if there would be any reason to make a krayted T-21. The increase in dmg just seems to be insignificant.







There are a lot of reasons to make a Krayt T-21. Here is my short list...


1. The word Krayt always looks cool in a weapon name.


2. What else would you do with 11 tissues?


3. The math makes sense. Say you get 72 damage tissues. Normally it would be a 410 damage T-21. Now it becomes a 482 damage T-21. Then you get a modest 25% damage slice. Now it is a 600ish damage T-21 and other rifleman will nearly mess their pants when they hear about it.


4. PvP



Seriously though, I have a Krayt T-21 I made myself for PvP. The tissues were good, but not awesome. The slice wasn't great, but pup'd it is well over 600 damage. (I am at work and don't recall the exact number...bah) It tears people up in PvP. I really don't care if you are wearing a 90% helmet and have Ranged Mitigation because I am speed capped with it and will still tear your head off in less than a minute. And woe to the poor sap that doesn't wear a helmet or armor. Nothing like doing over 500 damage to a force running Jedi with Flurry1.



Message Edited by -Redux- on 01-02-2005 04:30 PM



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cheechcheech
Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:03 pm
#7






-Redux- wrote:


Seriously though, I have a Krayt T-21 I made myself for PvP. The tissues were good, but not awesome. The slice wasn't great, but pup'd it is well over 600 damage. (I am at work and don't recall the exact number...bah) It tears people up in PvP. I really don't care if you are wearing a 90% helmet and have Ranged Mitigation because I am speed capped with it and will still tear your head off in less than a minute. And woe to the poor sap that doesn't wear a helmet or armor. Nothing like doing over 500 damage to a force running Jedi with Flurry1.








Since we are telling our T21 stats. I used base krayt tissues (30max) and got a 432 max damage rifle presliced. Lucky enough to get a 31% damage slice and with a min/max powerup its at 750ish max damage now. I was happy to say the least and that was with BASE tissues. Definitely worth it to make a krayt T21.





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KyridIce
Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:38 am
#8

Ireally can't believe how many posts here are condoning making krayt t21's...


Its a very gutsy move...kinda like putting all your eggs in one basket you know. I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you're quite rich and desperately need a better rifle. Otherwise, you may as well just slice some regular t21's and get yourself a 35% dmg slice. That would save you a ton of cash.


Amore conservativealternative would be to make 2 krayt dxr rifles with your set of 11 tissues. These rifles would stillsell well and the +30dmg has a greater effect on dmgthan if they were in a t21.





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-Redux-
Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:33 pm
#9






KyridIce wrote:

Ireally can't believe how many posts here are condoning making krayt t21's...


Its a very gutsy move...kinda like putting all your eggs in one basket you know. I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you're quite rich and desperately need a better rifle. Otherwise, you may as well just slice some regular t21's and get yourself a 35% dmg slice. That would save you a ton of cash.


Amore conservativealternative would be to make 2 krayt dxr rifles with your set of 11 tissues. These rifles would stillsell well and the +30dmg has a greater effect on dmgthan if they were in a t21.







Good point, but I rarely sell my krayt rifles. They are either made for me or a guild member. If I do make one to sell, it is by custom order only.


I hunt my own tissues, so being rich isn't a factor.


You are right though, you can make some very nice DXR rilfles also.


The simple fact is that krayt weapons are high end. Thus, unless you are rich or have lots of tissues on hand, they should only be used for PvP or hard stuff. I only use mine for PvP. I don't pull them out for PvE stuff at all.







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CTRL_ALT
Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:35 pm
#10






-Redux- wrote:






Naeto wrote:

I'm trying to find out what good dmg and speed on an unsliced T-21 would be. And if there would be any reason to make a krayted T-21. The increase in dmg just seems to be insignificant.







There are a lot of reasons to make a Krayt T-21. Here is my short list...


1. The word Krayt always looks cool in a weapon name. General for any krayt weapon.


2. What else would you do with 11 tissues? Make9 Scatters? 2 Geo blasters?


3. The math makes sense. Say you get 72 damage tissues. Normally it would be a 410 damage T-21. Now it becomes a 482 damage T-21. Then you get a modest 25% damage slice. Now it is a 600ish damage T-21 and other rifleman will nearly mess their pants when they hear about it. Unless the tissues are really nice like that, you can still get a speed splice or a low 20s slice. Buy a crate of non-enhanced T21s and you are bound to get a 30%+ damage slice.


4. PvP Geo blaster with such nice tissues would be nice.


Just my opinion on T21s, if you got a high paying buyer...than go ahead and make the T21. If I had such a nice set of 11 tissues I would look for a buyer most likely.


Seriously though, I have a Krayt T-21 I made myself for PvP. The tissues were good, but not awesome. The slice wasn't great, but pup'd it is well over 600 damage. (I am at work and don't recall the exact number...bah) It tears people up in PvP. I really don't care if you are wearing a 90% helmet and have Ranged Mitigation because I am speed capped with it and will still tear your head off in less than a minute. And woe to the poor sap that doesn't wear a helmet or armor. Nothing like doing over 500 damage to a force running Jedi with Flurry1.


Well hey!, I if I was a rifleman like that I would make myself a Krayt T21 anyday!




Message Edited by -Redux- on 01-02-2005 04:30 PM








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Willbaby
Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:58 am
#11

well the way i see it, i get offerd and i loot lots of tissues , dont get the sets of 11 offerd that much so when i do i always use em on T21's , thats what they are there for in the large sets , if i wanted to krayt anything else id just use a smaller set ,




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Scythykins
Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:02 am
#12

Thing of it is, many people in this game treat money like it's not a valued commodity...ingame money that is. Many are willing to take the plunge on price for that extra 30+ damage, and risk a bad slice.



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rivvers
Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:34 am
#13

i can telll you nat since i'm on shadowfirw with you.


7.5


405 max


but i can get them up to


7.4 speed


409 max


due to special rifle barrels




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