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Thread: Anti decay kits is anyone else worried?

ana-mo-cara
Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:30 pm
#1

The topic says it all. Apparantly these are out there now. This item applied to any weapon will make it last forever do you see this hurting your bottom line?
ShugFlurry
Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:39 pm
#2

I see it hurting anyone who doesnt have a 2k T21.

But yeah.. will hurt us as well



Shug
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ana-mo-cara
Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:58 pm
#3

I am looking at it, and the question is heavy in my heart. What will I do now. I am thinking of stockpileing a huge chunk of weapons for my bh. Laser rifles llcs scatters laser carbines. Basically the works. Then pulling the plug on my weaponsmith. I can always cram my resources into a bank box.
Lotok
Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:03 pm
#4

Look at it this way



  • There will always be people who cant afford to buy the decay kits

  • There is only 1 per person so if they change profession they will again need new weaponry

  • There are more people playing all the time so there will always be people who dont have one


Your assuming everyone is anti-decaying their weapons. They arent. Not everyone has played long enough for a free one, Some ppl will want a TIE model (Thats what i took). People change professions, sell theirs etc



it will end up the people who are rich and like to be "uber" will have them. I sell my loot made weaponry to a lot of ppl who dont care for that sort of thing. It wont have a huge impact unless you havea very small customer base




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ShugFlurry
Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:09 pm
#5

me/my bro have about 4 now... people are selling em like mad.



Shug
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Ybagi
Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:13 pm
#6






Lotok wrote:

Look at it this way



  • There will always be people who cant afford to buy the decay kits

  • There is only 1 per person so if they change profession they will again need new weaponry

  • There are more people playing all the time so there will always be people who dont have one


Your assuming everyone is anti-decaying their weapons. They arent. Not everyone has played long enough for a free one, Some ppl will want a TIE model (Thats what i took). People change professions, sell theirs etc



it will end up the people who are rich and like to be "uber" will have them. I sell my loot made weaponry to a lot of ppl who dont care for that sort of thing. It wont have a huge impact unless you havea very small customer base








Noobies don't buy alot of weapons, and they certainly don't buy expensive weapons, the majority of sales are to people that grind 3 hours every night and buy new weapons weekly, precisely the people that will be using these kits.


There are sencondary effects to consider as well, weapon purchases are a significant expense for many players, remove this expense then there is no need to go out and collect avian meat or krayt tissues to sell to get money for another weapon.


Switching professions is not going to help either, the weapon will still exist and go to someone else, just because you stop being a swordsman doesn't mean the scythe disappears, it gets sold to someone else instead of them buying from you.


I don't think anyone here has yet realized how bad this really is.




Yv
Undead Warrior
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ForceFielding
Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:10 pm
#7

I grind thorugh rilfes all the time


NowI never have to buy a rifle ever again onceI get a good one.


Of courseI won't have as much use for the rifle because with the thousands of 30k resource dupe tickets floating around my business (ranger) has been shot to hell



This is what the effect of the patch is:


all resources can be duped


1 gun is pretty much anyone really needs to buy for the rest of thier time in the game




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P__Day
Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:52 pm
#8






ForceFielding wrote:

I grind thorugh rilfes all the time


NowI never have to buy a rifle ever again onceI get a good one.


Of courseI won't have as much use for the rifle because with the thousands of 30k resource dupe tickets floating around my business (ranger) has been shot to hell



This is what the effect of the patch is:


all resources can be duped


1 gun is pretty much anyone really needs to buy for the rest of thier time in the game




Coming soon: 24 month rewards! You can now toggle "God-Mode" on and off






I wouldnt say you only need one gun, i hunt alot of krayt and i use a T21 for all except for juvi's where i use a DXR6b, there is no such thing as a best weapon
Ybagi
Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:55 pm
#9

I just read that these kits are reuseable, but when you reuse it, it destroys the original weapon.


Not sure what to make of that.... it sounds a little better to me but still not good, I would be happer if these weren't tradable like the sorosub veteran reward.



Yv
Undead Warrior
Alchemist
Malganis Server
World of Warcraft
Bermag
Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:32 am
#10






Ybagi wrote:

I just read that these kits are reuseable, but when you reuse it, it destroys the original weapon.


Not sure what to make of that.... it sounds a little better to me but still not good, I would be happer if these weren't tradable like the sorosub veteran reward.







Actually that is really bad. I was not worried about thosekits until that announcement. If they were not reusable people would have to make a choice "is this weapon good enough to spend my anti-decay kit on". Now they don't have to do that and can use it on their normal grinding rifle until they got a decent weapon to use it on.





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Asir_SWG
Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:49 am
#11






Bermag wrote:





Ybagi wrote:

I just read that these kits are reuseable, but when you reuse it, it destroys the original weapon.


Not sure what to make of that.... it sounds a little better to me but still not good, I would be happer if these weren't tradable like the sorosub veteran reward.







Actually that is really bad. I was not worried about thosekits until that announcement. If they were not reusable people would have to make a choice "is this weapon good enough to spend my anti-decay kit on". Now they don't have to do that and can use it on their normal grinding rifle until they got a decent weapon to use it on.






Yup they need to change that point........ I have tested this on the live server and the deed did come back. If this remains that way tis the end of the WS....




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Summerflame
Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:16 am
#12

Thou Im fully aware that Im repeating myself Im gonna continue doing so untill I get the point across :b

They need to fully remove the kit or make the antidecay kit decay in some way.


Problem or beauty of this game is that when you tamper with one thing it gonna affect a lot of people. Not just the ones it seemingly benefits in the first place. Lets take the anti decay kit and have a closer look. Player A has a legendary PH with 3k maxdam. he has used it a bit in pvp and thus the condition has reached 120 so he has it stored away for very special occasions.


But lo and behold here comes the anti dacay kit to save the day. He can now use the PH for killing gubburs cause nothing will ever change the condition. He uses it more constructively thou to go camp acklay. And even thou he is almos outdamaged by the3 grouped guys with antidecaying highend acklay hammers and the 2 riflemen with antidacaying exceptional T21s he gets the kill.


From the acklaay he loots 6 77-120 bones... fairly decent that could potential make a sliced ph with max dam above 700, but since the antidacy kit has been around for a couple of month, most people allready have highend antidecaying phs and of course he can sell the bones, but not at all with as high demand as previously. Now imagine the same scenario in a year....


All this to say, its not only going to affect the WS community, in the long run its going to have impact on the whole player economy and this is not even taken the pvp-side og all this mess into consideration....


add to this all the people harvesting resources. Well most of them can forget about earning credits that way cause if the sales of WS are cut down by lets just say 50% heck even 35% most WS will be able to harvest most of what they need themself.


I seriously hope the do something about the decay kit or take it out completely!


And dont even start on the CU. Ill start taking that into consideration when Im downloading the patch which holds it. Untilll then I play from what is live.




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PaladinX333
Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:49 am
#13

Like most things in SWG, they managed to screw up the initial implimentation of the kits.


The kit should have been a single use item and it should have been non-transferrable.


This will have an adverse affect on our business.
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